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Old September 20, 2000, 11:08 AM   #1
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I just started using Unique for 9mm. I'm loading a 115gr TMJ bullet from Hornady. The load books are all over the place as to what the maximum load should be, but most of them put the max at around 6gr. At 5.5 grains the powder is 3-4mm below the mouth of the case. It's certainly sitting high enough for the bullet to have to compress it a little.

Can anyone else reloading 9mm with Unique tell me if this is normal?
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Old September 20, 2000, 12:00 PM   #2
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Sounds normal to me.

Unique has pretty big flakes, meaning that when dropped into the case it tends to stack up.

Try tapping one of the cases on the table several times and see how far the powder level goes down.

This is one of the reasons why I don't like Unique. It just doesn't meter well at all.

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Old September 20, 2000, 12:42 PM   #3
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That's pretty much normal. If you are loading on a progressive be sure to operate the machine smoothly. If a case gets bumped or jarred enough, flakes will get knocked out of the case and create a small mess. That is one reason that I switched to TiteGroup (that and the fact that it meters much mo' better).

I got good results on paper with Unique, in fact I still use it in .44Mag target loads and .45Colt, but for 9mm I wanted something easier to work with.

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Old September 20, 2000, 04:10 PM   #4
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Hello, Mikul. It is normal. I normally load either 6.2gr Unique under a 115 Sierra JHP or 6 gr under a 124 Hornady XTP. Both are near the top of the case and there is powder compression. Best.
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Old September 20, 2000, 08:07 PM   #5
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I used to load unique for pistol ( 9mm, .40 & .45) but I don't any more.
Not for the reason you are seing, but I think you will notice it is a very dirty powder. It leaves a lot of residue.
I now use Winchster 231 for 9mm.
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Old September 20, 2000, 10:33 PM   #6
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My standard load is 6.0 gr. Unique, Remington 115 gr JHP which produces 1205 fps out of my daughter's Glock 19. She just burned up about 1000 rounds of it at Gunsite without any problems. I use the same load in my Browning High Power.

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Old September 21, 2000, 06:06 AM   #7
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That's exactly why I use it, because of it's bulk. It's impossible to double with it in a 9mm.
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Old September 21, 2000, 08:20 AM   #8
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Suggest Universal Clays as a better Unique alternative; virtually the same 'burn rate', but MUCH better metering, and very clean.

Basically a modern "Unique".

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Old September 21, 2000, 10:31 AM   #9
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Thanks for the confirmation. I was getting concerned.

The bottom end of my rounds seems to agree with Sierra's information, so I'll use their high end as a guide.

Maybe I'll give Clays a try when my keg of Unique runs out.

I'm surprised to hear karlfitt say that 231 is clean. I found it to be quite dirty.
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Old September 21, 2000, 12:33 PM   #10
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For those of you who are using Unique because it is practically impossible to double charge, try using BlueDot. This is a slower burning powder than 231, fills the case like Unique, and will give you some AWESOME velocities. It is definitely a whole lot cleaner than Unique as well.
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Old September 22, 2000, 06:47 PM   #11
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what got me was one night I was switching my progressive from 9mm to .45 acp and when I checked my book for the amount of powder(unique) it was the same
yep thats sounds real good
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Old September 23, 2000, 05:41 AM   #12
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I use 5.6gr for a 115gr in 9mm and 6.0gr for a 230gr in .45. It seems strange to use the same amount to you, but you forget the bullet weighs twice as much in the .45.

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