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Old August 3, 2000, 03:50 PM   #1
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I just had a question, how can you waterproof rifle ammo? Someone told me clear fingernail polish, then I heard a rumor that you should not use nail polish because it is flamable?????

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Old August 3, 2000, 04:43 PM   #2
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Doc,

I've used finger nail polish for years to water proof primer and bullet. The last I used was pink. My wife didn't like the color.

I did a water proofing test on handloaded rounds back in May of 1996 to 5.56mm NATO and M-1 Carbine then placed them in a peanut butter jar full of water. Rounds fired after 1 year under water. Stopped testing after that.

So I just went to my work bench and low and behold there sitting on the back of the bench was that jar with 4 rounds of M-1 Carbine still in the water. This will tell you I need to clean my work bench more often.

The brass and bullets are a gray/black and corroded. I pulled a bullet the powder was dry and flamed right up when I touched a match it it.

Sometime in the future I'll clean up the other rounds and fire them. Don't want today since I don't fell like cleaning the carbine. I hate to clean guns.

When I fire them I'll do a post.

Concening being flamable once it's dry I've never run into a problem

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Old August 4, 2000, 06:04 PM   #3
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Don't you guys see a lot of fouling around the firing pin hole ... actually, maybe a description of the process used to apply the nail polish would help ... I have these ugly visions of globs of pink all over the place How do you apply it to the bullet/case interface in a clean fashion? Thanks ... this is something I have wondered about for a while!
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Old August 5, 2000, 08:24 AM   #4
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I've used nail polish in the past. The drawback with nail polish is that sometimes it came off the primer area after firing, leaving little piles of dried nail polish in the action.

Now I'm using George and Roys Custom Primer sealant. So far I haven't had any of it come off after firing.. so far..

If you compare the ingredients, nail polish and this stuff aren't quite the same.
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Old August 5, 2000, 09:54 AM   #5
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What I do is one the round is loaded I place it bullet down in a loading tray and then smear the polish over the primer once it dries a little I wipe it off. This still leaves the polish around the outside edges of the primer.

The bullet is done similar I use the polish brush to go around the case neck and then it dry some then wipe it off.

I agree with Patrick that too much left on (over the entire primer) you will get some build up of the polish after firing.

Wiping if off I've not run into this.

He's also right about the commerical sealant. I guess I'm too cheap to buy it.

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Old August 5, 2000, 12:11 PM   #6
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Went to the range today to zero in my new Browning pump 243 and also took two of those M-1 Carbine rounds that had been in water since 96 and sealed with finger nail polish.

Tried to fire the two rounds no go. Primer was hit but no fire. Pulled the bullets when I got home the powder was damp. I would assume the primer was also damp since it did't fire. The powder did lite with a match.

Now we know that a 4 years under water might be a tad bit too much for the finger nail polish.

Oh by the way the 243 shot like a dream.

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Old August 5, 2000, 06:28 PM   #7
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George & Roy's.

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Old August 6, 2000, 09:26 AM   #8
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Source on the George & Roys primer sealant??

Thanks,

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Old August 6, 2000, 10:59 AM   #9
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Graf & Sons, Midway?, local gunshop?

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Old August 20, 2000, 12:20 AM   #10
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Cabela's has George and Roy's $9 a bottle.
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Old August 20, 2000, 07:15 AM   #11
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Another source for George & Roys custom primer sealant is www.scharch.com.

9.99 per half oz bottle. It's suppose to do 1000 rounds. It's 'spensive stuff.
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Old August 20, 2000, 08:30 AM   #12
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No, it means I'm an (custom, handgun only) ammunition manufacturer.

Check my bio; link to page there.

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Old August 20, 2000, 12:07 PM   #13
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Clear fingernail laquer works just fine, and it's a lot cheaper than $9/bottle. Get a small, pointed paintbursh from a hobby supplier, and then put a drop around the primer and let it flow into the groove. If you put your reloads into a case holder tray, you can put something under one side to tilt it slightly to the side and then use the same method for sealing the case mouth; the laquer will flow into the groove.

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