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Old June 15, 2006, 12:51 PM   #1
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varmint .308 bullets

Whats a good bullet to use for varmint hunting with a .308, do they sell a factory load with a lighter grain bullet or am I going to have to reload to use my .308 for varminting. Reason I ask is I always see "varminter" .308's for sale but the lightest bullet Ive seen is arond 147g, isnt that a bit much.
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Old June 15, 2006, 01:04 PM   #2
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I don't know of any factory light rounds for the .308. That being said, I haven't bought factory in a long time. You can buy .308 bullets all the way down to 110 gr but 125s are as light as I would go. The 110s are mostly for m1 carbines.
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Old June 15, 2006, 01:48 PM   #3
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I am shooting a 110 grain V-Max in my .308 right now for varmint and bench shooting.

48 grains of Varget, CCI primers, Winchester Brass. Overall length will be your short fall. Keep bullet seated firmly, and don't try to leave it to long, and you should be alright.(velocity will be around 2900 to 3000 fps)

Mine will shoot clover leaves at 100 yards, with this round.

No Factory loads are loaded lower than 125s that I have seen for sale, so you will probably have to reload to get what you want.
They make a 90 grain plinker bullet, in .308, but I have never loaded any.
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Old June 15, 2006, 02:15 PM   #4
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308 varminters . . . hmmm, must have some tough critters out there somewhere. Just kidding!

308 ammo comes in many different bullet weights and configurations. Generally, the light end of the spectrum (110-135 gr bullets) have lighter jackets and are referred to as varminting bullets because they are designed to open up easier and avoid/reduce ricochets. Heavier bullets (145-220 gr) are generally referred to as big game or hunting bullets. 147 gr sounds like military hardball, used for . . . um, two-legged varmints. Also not generally the most accurate ammo available.

Try taking a look at different factory-loaded ammo. However, if you really want to shoot varmints with a 308, you will probably have to reload. This is due to both the cost of factory ammo and the poor selection of lighter weight bullets in factory ammo. When you reload, you can load whatever powder/bullet combination you please.

Calling a .308 rifle a varminter rifle usually means it has a heavy/stiff barrel for accuracy and absorbing the heat from rapid firing, a good trigger, and a stock that is designed for shooting from a prone position.
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Old June 15, 2006, 02:46 PM   #5
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Winchester may still sell a 125gr load. Remington sells a 125gr load as a "managed recoil load",but it's relatively slow and isn't really a varmint load per say.
I just reload my own using Remington 125gr component bullets at about 3100fps or so.
I think they call heavy barreled.308's "varmint" rifles because it sounds nicer than "sniper" and more exciting than "target".
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Old June 15, 2006, 11:19 PM   #6
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Handloading, I've always used the Hornady 110-grain Spire Point as my varmint load for my '06. Easy enough to crank them out at around 3,400 or so. IIRC, the old factory loading claimed 3,480 from a 26" barrel. The .308 oughta get around 3,400 without any trouble.

If you really want some fun, try a .30 pistol bullet of some 80 grains, or the old flat-nose .32-20 bullet of 80 grains. Entertaining!

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Old June 16, 2006, 12:39 AM   #7
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If you really want some fun, try a .30 pistol bullet of some 80 grains, or the old flat-nose .32-20 bullet of 80 grains. Entertaining!
Gotta love those lightweight thin-jacketed softpoints for explosive performance on varmints.
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Old June 16, 2006, 12:54 AM   #8
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Im always facing the decision of buying my next gun or getting the equipment for reloading which I would love to do but I dont think I have the room anywhere for the setup. It sure does open alot of doors but at the same time I could use a new .204 or .243 rifle

oh, and how would a 110g bullet do out of my 1:10 twist barrel
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Old June 16, 2006, 12:53 PM   #9
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1:10? Probably the best 30-caliber twist rate for 110- to 150-grain bullets. IIRC, 1:9 is all-around; 1:8 is for the heavier bullets.

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Old June 16, 2006, 12:58 PM   #10
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From what ive seen the norm seems to be 1:12 for the .308, 1:10 is for 150g and up Ive heard. The local range has reloading lessons for $100 and the guy said he can get me setup with everything I need for about $450 for reloading equipment, does that sound alright?

Im really considering reloading, it seems like it would be so fun and rewarding coming up with my own loads. Ive already saved around 200 rounds of match brass aswell.
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Old June 16, 2006, 02:42 PM   #11
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.308 varminter

I got into reloading many years ago, so I could shoot woodchucks, the only centerfire rifle I had was a .308 Win. I used the Speer 110gr jhp, and later the Sierra 125gr spitzer. I have even used the 100gr halfjacketed "plinkers" from Speer and Hornady.

Some rifles will shoot them well, and some will not. Only testing in your rifle will tell. Velocities well in excess of 3000 fps can be obtained with these light bullets, but you may have to play around a bit to find the best load for your particular rifle. The are devastating on varmints though.
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Old June 16, 2006, 06:16 PM   #12
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Kinda suprised noone mentioned the Speer 125gn TNT's. I have used these over a max charge of Varget for some very spectacular prairie dog explosion! They shoot very well in my Savage 10FP, but would be a handloading proposition only.
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Old June 16, 2006, 10:49 PM   #13
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+1 for the 110gr hornady, esp. if you have an M1a as they really seem to like these, more accurate then Fed. gold medal in mine.
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Old June 17, 2006, 01:19 AM   #14
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varmint .308 bullets
That's easy. Neck it down to a 24 caliber and load with a 55 grain bullet. You'll want a different rifle just for this new load, though--it's called a 243!
That said, why would you want to waste the meat by exploding the poor thing?...
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Old June 17, 2006, 11:43 AM   #15
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I have had some very good luck with Sierra 110 gr. Varmiter JHPs in my .308 loads. I have been shooting them out of my Remington 700 VS and have really been surprised by the accuracy, especially out of a 1-10" twist. I am using Win 748 and don't remember what charge weight I am using. I started at the min. load in the current Sierra manual and worked my way up. All charge weights I fired were very accurate.
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Old June 17, 2006, 12:50 PM   #16
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The specialty pistol bullets by Sierra and Hornady (130-135gr.) have done the trick nicely for me over the last few years. Still like the various 110's and 125's, bu will give the 130's a try as well....slower, but seem to have a very predictable terminal effect.
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Old June 23, 2006, 12:35 AM   #17
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I was browsing ammo man and I came across factory 110g hornady tap loads for the .308, $1.25 a round though. How would the self defense loads work on a varmint, pretty good im guessin since its meant to stop a human.
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Old June 23, 2006, 02:10 PM   #18
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$1.25 A ROUND,

I remember now why I hand load, I get 5 shots for that much!!
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