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Old February 20, 2000, 10:36 PM   #1
Fusternc
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I have been reloading for ~4months now and I have grown to enjoy it, however I am looking to speed up the production rate considerably. I have a Lee Anniversary Reloading Kit that I have been using since I started, and have gotten some VERY good reults with ammo I've made on it. Specifically, I have been using the Lee Challenger Single stage press that comes with the kit. At a good speed, I am able to make ~50 rounds an hour. I normally shoot ~ 300 rounds of .45 ACP a month and 200 rounds of 9mm per month. This has led to quite a bit of time sitting at the reloading bench when I could be doing other things.

I am beginning to think it may be time to goto a progressive setup, but to do so, I don't wanna spend more than $150 total for a setup. This pretty much rules out everything except the Lee Pro 1000 progressive. I can get it for $129 (shipped) from Midway.

Seeing as how happy I am with the Anniversayy kit I got for $65, do you guys think that I would be happy with the Lee Pro 1000 as well? I have read that it does have some problems with feeding large pistol primers, and since I do load .45 Acp, this is somewhat of a concern. I also don't quite understand how you can make 150 rounds plus per hour on the Lee, and have all rounds taper crimped, etc? On the challenger press I use, I have to "manually" crimp each round using the bullet seating/crimpng die by tightening the die by hand when each round is inside the die. How exactly do you get away from having to do this "by hand" with the progressive? Don't you use the same exact dies?

Thanks for all your help, because as you can see I am a progressive newbie

Nathan..
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Old February 20, 2000, 11:47 PM   #2
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Fusternc,

I don't haveany experience specifically with the Lee 1000, but I can answer your question about the taper crimp die.

It is an extra stage after bullet seating. Keep the body of the seating die high enough so that the roll crimp doesn't engage the case at all. After seating the bullet, rotate the cartridge to the taper crimp station. Be sure and not use too much pressure when taper crimping, it's not necessary. Adjust it to the proper outside dimensions of your case at the mouth. .473 for the ACP.
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Old February 21, 2000, 01:20 PM   #3
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Sorry charlie but at 500 rounds a month, you have three alternatives.

First, shoot less, aim for qaulity shots not quanity.

Second, buy a Dillion Square Deal used.

Or third, buy a used turret press for $50-100 that will get you about 100-120 rounds an hour.

With the Dillon SD, maybe 300 an hour. 5 hours versus 2 hours on the progressive. Your choice.

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Old February 22, 2000, 05:40 PM   #4
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I started out with an RCBS single stage, then progressed to a Lee turret. From there I modified my turret into a Pro 1000 with parts from Midway. Much cheaper than a full progressive and it suits my style of loading.
I load 2000 9mm and 40 a week for myself and my buddies, so I can truely say that progressive saves major time. I use all the shell and bullet feeders that are available, and mine work great. I've never had any problem feeding anything, cases, bullets, primers, etc.
I always use the Lee factory crimp dies, either the taper or the roll, depending on what I'm reloading. Makes a major difference in ease of chambering, feeding, and wear and tear on feed ramps. Never mind reliability. Many people here use my reloads for IDPA shoots. Never had any complaints, and if one of my bullets fails to fire during competition, then I provide the person free factory loads for their next shoot. Never had to do that, though!
To get it all done, my method is to taper crimp on my single stage. Unless you have a 4 stage or more head, there's no real way to do it all in one arm pull. That's why I'm getting a Dillon as soon as the tax may repays me!

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