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Old April 25, 2006, 09:47 AM   #1
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700x

A friend of mine who used to shoot a lot of trap recently gave me a couple boxes of Win AA shells (12 ga.) reloaded with 700X. I shot them up the other day and was impressed with the results. (Maybe I was just out of character and having a good day). One thing for sure is that it didn't take long to clean my shotgun after firing approx. 300 rounds. Must be a clean burner.

My question is, who has used or is still using this powder? I've only been shooting clays for a few years, and I've always used either Clays or E3. I'm thinking I need to get a jug of this stuff.
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Old April 26, 2006, 12:15 AM   #2
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I've been reloading with 700X for a long time.
Some people claim that it is a cleaner burning powder. I don't see much of a difference.
I like the consistency from one batch to another and the way it meters.
Was there something in particular that you wanted to know?
You can find recipes at various sites. I like 17 grs behind 1 1/8 oz of #7.5. I use claybuster wads, Winchester 209 primers. Normal disclaimers apply and you have to be certain your gun is in good condition and all that.
I selected these primers and wads due to lowest price, but they have done surprisingly very well.
I find this combination cost effective & patterns well.
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Old April 26, 2006, 09:18 AM   #3
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I did an experiment last week in regards to 700x. With my SxS I loaded one barrel with a round that had been loaded with Red Dot, and the other that had a round that had been loaded with 700x. In this one experiment it appeared that 700x burned cleaner after 25 rounds each. Aside from that, I didn't notice any other performance difference.
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Old April 26, 2006, 05:12 PM   #4
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I have used 700X for more years than I want to think about. I just don't get to excited about this one is cleaner than that one. I clean my guns after I shoot anyways. I personally don't care how "dirty" a powder is, the next shot cleans it out anyways.As long as it goes boom and breaks birds, what do I care? I get more concerned with the plastic fouling which no one talks about, just bitch about a couple of powder flecks in the barrel. I would love to hear, factually, what difference the filthiest powder does to my patterns over the cleanest powders as opposed to a plastic build up in the bore. C'mon guys!!!!
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Old April 26, 2006, 05:29 PM   #5
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True, 700X WAS the cleanest burning shotshell powder when introduced and compared largely with old process Hercules of New Jersey Red Dot. But I use it because that was what my shotshell loading mentor set me up with years ago, simple as that. I be if he had been a Red Dot man, I'd be shooting Red Dot.

I don't understand the present search for "clean" powders. I have only had one powder that fouled enough to affect gun operation in a normal day's shooting - HS6 in below maximum 9mm P loads. All the others get swabbed out when the guns are routinely cleaned.
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Old April 26, 2006, 07:44 PM   #6
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Jim,, that is kinda my thought too..I don't care if I get a couple of unburned flecks in my barrel as long as the load does what I expect,,, break birds. I shoot a lot of 410 and all the powders leave residue. I simply clean it out when I am done shooting, no big deal.. Why are so many people looking for a powder that leaves no trace of residue. Big deal, the next shot gets rid of it and you have a "new" deposit of a couple of flakes. I think many are looking for the "perfect" powder with no drawbacks regardless of efficiency,,CLEAN YOU GUN when finished,, whats the big deal?????
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Old April 27, 2006, 09:28 AM   #7
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I started this post to find out who likes 700X for various reasons. Just to be clear, the main reason I even wanted to know was that I simply shot better the day I used this powder! I've used E3 almost exclusively since I got into clay shooting several years ago, and I like it. But when I shoot noticeably better on a given day using a different load, it makes me start to wonder why! So I bought a jug of 700X yesterday and loaded up some shells, which I will try next time out.....maybe I'll have the same results, maybe I won't, but how can you find a pet load if you don't experiment?
As to the clean thing, the only powder I've seen that was markedly dirtier than others was Green Dot. I won't use that again just because of the length of time it took me to clean my barrels, which by the way get cleaned after every trip to the range. FWIW, the 700X left very little fouling, and to me that's just a bonus.
The shells I loaded last night were as follows: Win hulls, 17.5 gr. 700X, Windjammer wad, 1 1/8 oz. 71/2 shot, and Federal 209A primers.
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