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Old April 17, 2006, 09:55 PM   #1
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Possible to obtain an official CCW test for studying purposes?

No matter what the state, or even if it's just an official practice test -- is this possible? I won't be going out for my CCW for 6 months or so, but would really like to study up so I'm very prepared; not to mention it's invaluable everyday knowledge.

In case it's of importance, I'm from MN. I'm not sure if anything such as this exists, but if it does it would be a great learning tool. Thanks!
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Old April 18, 2006, 12:12 AM   #2
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I can't imagine any instructor giving out one of the official tests for any reason other than its original purpose. Check with some of the places that teach the Concealed Carry classes and ask if there are any books they recommend. Ask the instructors, not someone working at the range.
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Old April 18, 2006, 06:10 AM   #3
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I spent a day in class

studing for the S.C. test. When the instructor finally handed out the written test... it was the biggest joke in the world. Most folks with half a lick of common sense could pass it.
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Old April 18, 2006, 06:30 AM   #4
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Fla does not have a written test to hand out
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Old April 18, 2006, 07:05 AM   #5
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The Instructor will go over the material in a review probably....The test here in Texas is easy after the review.
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Old April 18, 2006, 09:33 AM   #6
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Test? No one said there would be a test!

Sometimes I wish Georgia had a test/class/formal procedure and a state agency responsible instead of having to wait 6+ months for a judge to sign off and deem you worthy. From what I've read states with test and class requirments generally get permits out quicker.
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Old April 18, 2006, 10:45 AM   #7
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I found the writen test here in Arizona very basic and could have passed it prior to any classes. However perhaps someone who had never ever been around any type of firearm , well it's possible they might have a hard time with it.
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Old April 18, 2006, 10:52 AM   #8
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I wasn't worried about passing the test at all, but from the sounds of it I'll be just fine reading and reviewing the information available to me online. I just wanted to start learning / acquiring some of the "what if" or "in this situation" info that usually seems to be very debatable on a lot of sites.
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Old April 18, 2006, 11:49 AM   #9
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Here an exact copy of the CCW test given in Virginia:

Quote:











I don't think they have changed the text of the test since I took it.

Seriously, the few tests I have seen are almost all common sense questions. If you are familiar with the basic CCW laws in your state, you should do fine.
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Old April 18, 2006, 10:23 PM   #10
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Haha, alright awesome. I'm not too worried then!
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Old April 19, 2006, 12:32 AM   #11
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I'm more concerned about the shooting test than the written one. If I can put all 50 shots inside a 12-inch circle, is that sufficient for TX standards?
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Old April 19, 2006, 02:45 AM   #12
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I'm more concerned about the shooting test than the written one. If I can put all 50 shots inside a 12-inch circle, is that sufficient for TX standards?
Almost certainly... what ranges are you firing from though?
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Old April 19, 2006, 10:02 AM   #13
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Are we talking from 10, 12, or 15 yards?
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:13 AM   #14
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:26 AM   #15
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Get a book on state gun laws and they will give you a general idea of what laws and legislation from where you can carry to when you can use deadly force.

Since you say you are from MN, here is a book on it.

http://aacfi.com/products/MNEverythi...edToKnow.shtml

http://aacfi.com/MN/info

There is a series of Gun Owners Guide books written by Alan Korwin which are an excellent source of gun ownership and carryt laws, but I don't see one written for Minnesota by him yet.

I don't know how hard one test of one state is to another, but when I got my CCW permit in Arizona, I only lived here a couple months, never had a CCW permit before and knew very little about their CCW laws and when I went for the test, all did was pay attention in the class, took a few notes, studied them before the test and I received a perfect 100% on my written test. A majority of it is basically common sense questions.

As far as the shooting part of the test. Can you basically put all your rounds in paper plate at 15 feet? You don't have to be a perfect shot and put your rounds through the same hole, but just know you can hit a human sized target in the center of the chest at a relatively short distance.

Check this out for some fun.

http://crime.about.com/od/quizyourstategunlaws
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Old April 19, 2006, 11:34 AM   #16
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the only test up here is to hit a silhouette target (anywhere in the black) at least six times out of ten, first from 7 yards, then from 15.

one or two needed help doing that much. chalk it up to a gunshop recommending a double action snub nose with a horrendous trigger pull to women who have never held a gun before in their life. as soon as they tried it with the instructors 1911, they could actually hit the target, not the ground in front of it.


check out packing.org for your states laws regarding the use of deadly force, its best to know it ahead of time and flag all the sections you have questions about so you can get it all hashed out with your instructor.
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Old April 19, 2006, 01:44 PM   #17
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I believe the shooting test I will be taking is from 3 different ranges:

20 shots at 4 yards
20 shots at 7 yards
10 shots at 11 yards

I have been practicing at the 11 yard range. I can place most of my shots in about a 12-inch circle. At 4 and 7 yards, I shoot somewhat tighter groups.
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Old April 19, 2006, 02:10 PM   #18
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I believe the shooting test I will be taking is from 3 different ranges:

20 shots at 4 yards
20 shots at 7 yards
10 shots at 11 yards

I have been practicing at the 11 yard range. I can place most of my shots in about a 12-inch circle. At 4 and 7 yards, I shoot somewhat tighter groups.
I thought the ranges were different than what you listed but I can't find anything online one way or another... at any rate, if you can place most of your shots in a 12" circle at 11 yards then you should be all right. Keep practicing though!
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Old April 19, 2006, 03:44 PM   #19
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Well I should do just fine then.

I tried that practice quiz, and it stated there is a waiting period on handgun sales. When I bought mine, it took about 10 minutes -- they called it in (background check?) and that was that. But ehn.
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Old April 19, 2006, 07:11 PM   #20
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no written test in Minnesota.
50 round firing test.
something like load 5 two handed at 7 yards
load 10 two handed at 7 yards
load 5 one handed at 7 yards
same at 15 yards
10 at 25 yards.
70% need to be in the black to pass.
the only possible stumbling blocks are that they can fail you for a safety vialation. such as bringing a loaded gun to class or even bringing a loaded magazine to class.
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:25 PM   #21
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Loaded mag uhn, I doubt I'd do something that stupid, but that's good to know. Do you have any recommendations for teachers?
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Old April 19, 2006, 09:48 PM   #22
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I thought the loaded mag thing stupid as i always load my mags before i step onto the firing line but they can giveyou a safety violation for it i guess
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Old April 28, 2006, 10:05 PM   #23
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Legal justification for the use of deadly force

The Use of Deadly Force (General)

DEADLY FORCE-- That degree of force that results in the high probability of death.

JUSTIFICATION FOR THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE-- That behavior by another
which has caused or imminently threatens to cause death or great bodily harm to you or another person or persons.

PRECONDITIONS FOR THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE or
The factors of "Imminent Threat":

(1.) The subject must display or indicate the INTENT to cause great
bodily harm or death to you or another person.
(2.) The subject must posses a WEAPON capable of inflicting great bodily harm or death. In this context, "weapon" could include empty hand techniques if the subject is much stronger or more skilled than you are, as well as more conventional weapons such as a knife, club, or firearm.
(3.) The subject must have the capacity/opportunity or DELIVERY SYSTEM
to use that weapon against you.

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DEADLY FORCE -- That degree of force that a reasonable and prudent person would consider to be capable of causing death (or great bodily harm).

GREAT BODILY HARM -- A crippling injury, either temporary or permanent in effect.

HOMICIDE -- The killing of a human being by a human being.

MURDER -- The intentional killing of a human being by another human being.

JUSTIFICATION FOR THE USE OF DEADLY FORCE -- to protect against an
immediate and otherwise unavoidable danger of death or great bodily harm to the innocent.

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ABILITY -- to possess the power to deliver deadly force.

OPPORTUNITY -- to be capable of immediately employing that power.

JEOPARDY -- acting in such a manner as to demonstrate the intent
to use deadly force. Would a reasonable and prudent person believe that
the actor had deadly intent?

PRECLUSION -- did you have the ability to avoid the threat without placing
yourself in greater danger?

DISPARTITY OF FORCE -- was the aggressor significantly larger, stronger,
or more skilled than you were, so that empty hand combat would place you in
danger of death or great bodily harm?

*******************************************************
Terminology will change from state to state, but the basic principles are pretty universal. Become accustomed to the verbiage used in your state.
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Old April 28, 2006, 11:17 PM   #24
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In Texas the qualification was at 3,5,7 and 15 yards...50 rounds. My eyes arent the best in the world but I managed to score 250 out of 250 on it. Nobody failed to qualify.... and yes I saw people miss at 3 yards what made me nervous is when one would clang the target stand.
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Old May 1, 2006, 09:19 PM   #25
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good job hitting 250

I was in a class of 32 people, the best did 249, my friend did 248 and I did 246. Everyone passed, though some were closer to the bottom line.

I was hoping to ace it...maybe next time. Damn Glock
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