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Old March 19, 2006, 01:14 AM   #1
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Remington ShurShot Heavy Dove #6 Self Defense??

What do ya'll think about shooting a intruder with 12gauge ShurShot Heavy Dove rounds in #6. 2 3/4 length shells with 1265 FPS loaded with 1 1/8 oz's of shot.Have a full 25qty box would this be a great addition to my 9mmXD?
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Old March 19, 2006, 01:21 AM   #2
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Believe it or not, bird shot does not penetrate enough. Stick with 00 buck.
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Old March 19, 2006, 08:30 AM   #3
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It would be devistating inside of 10-15 feet, past that it spreads it's small pellets too far apart to help insure any pentration. The biggest bird shot I would feel comfortable with is #4 bird shot, even then heavy clothing would restrict some of the penetration, but I would use it inside of 30feet and feel comfortable. I have used the same #4 to kill fox out to 45 yards with the pellets penetrationg to 4" through meat and a few pellets pentrated into the skull. Better yet would be #2's or BB's for self defense.
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Old March 19, 2006, 01:45 PM   #4
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It would be perfect for self defense against angry doves.
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Old March 19, 2006, 01:51 PM   #5
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Old March 21, 2006, 03:23 PM   #6
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ask the VP

the vice pres shot his huntin buddy within 30 yards and he aint dead, stick to xx buck. It's put down many a bad man!!
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Old March 21, 2006, 04:16 PM   #7
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Stick to buckshot unless ranges are real close and over penetration is a real problem. And, of course, pattern your gun with it so you know exactly what it will do ...
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Old March 22, 2006, 05:37 PM   #8
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if it's all you got, it's better than stick
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Old March 22, 2006, 06:52 PM   #9
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or throwing a rock.
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Old March 22, 2006, 08:01 PM   #10
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For self defense nothing beats "cubic shot", not even 00 buck.
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Old March 23, 2006, 08:19 AM   #11
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Do you really want a fast opening pattern for self defense?

"12 GAUGE CUBIC SHOT
THESE SHELLS CONTAIN PELLETS EXTRUDED AND CUT INTO SMALL UNIFORM CUBES, RESULTING IN A FAST OPENING LETHAL PATTERN, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME REDUCING THE POSSIBILITY OF RICOCHETS. THESE SHELLS ARE PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE IN HEAVY COVER ON GAME TARGETS SUCH AS GROUSE, SWAMP RATS, ETC." - http://www.hi-vel.com/Catalog__17/Sp..._ammuniti.html
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Old March 23, 2006, 09:15 AM   #12
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Do you really want a fast opening pattern for self defense?
Inside a house? yes.
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Old March 23, 2006, 12:20 PM   #13
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Why, so some of the load misses the target?

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Old March 23, 2006, 12:36 PM   #14
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Why, so some of the load misses the target?
Or hits the target when your wife misses, or you get surprised and barely miss.
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Old March 23, 2006, 12:53 PM   #15
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Do your research and make your decision based on data; terminal ballistics, proven performance. Personally, I would stay away from exotic shotshells. Other than slugs, there is a reason buckshot is mentioned more often than any other SD / HD / CD/ TEOTWAWKI load. Proven performance, effective measured terminal performance. When you hear advice to pattern the load with "your" shotgun yourself, they are not just blowing smoke up your pant leg. Each shotgun's bore parameters vary slightly so you need to find which load your shotgun patterns best, after you decide on a gauge. Some reading.

Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition

#4 Buck 12 ga.

birdshot for close range

Shotgun home defense loads

Buckshot: How Many Hits are Needed?

Shotguns are 'too dangerous' for home defense...What?!


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