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Old March 7, 2006, 10:42 AM   #1
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Identify bullet?

I have a bullet I taken out of an airplane I was flying, that I'm trying to identify. It is about 30 cal, weighing 124 grains, cut with four groove right hand twist rifling. Groove diameter .313 and land dia .303. That matches SKS and the AK, but the 124 grain bullet has an open base like most FMJ bullets but the nose is open like a hollow point. There was no expansion and very little deformation of the nose. If it was a FMJ with the tip broken off the tip was dang thin and gave a very clean break. Looks like a small dia hollowpoint.

Any ideas? Thanks
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Old March 7, 2006, 10:49 AM   #2
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7.62X39, 122gr HP, maybe.
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Old March 7, 2006, 11:02 AM   #3
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Identify bullet

Who makes that hp bullet, and what has been it's use?
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Old March 7, 2006, 11:13 AM   #4
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Purpose: Cheapest possible way to offer a "hunting bullet" for sales of Communist surplus to credulous Americans who will buy anything as long as it is a "bargain."
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Old March 7, 2006, 11:15 AM   #5
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Identify bullet

Thank you very much Jim.
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Old March 7, 2006, 11:17 AM   #6
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Identify bullet

As a PS, am I correct in asuming that the hollow point is not used in military supplied ammo?
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Old March 7, 2006, 04:09 PM   #7
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No, the military does not use Hollow Points.
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Old March 8, 2006, 01:05 AM   #8
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Well, OUR military does, but we're special.

The JAG has determined that it is ok to shoot at foreigners with hollowpoint match bullets because the intent is to make it easier to hit them, not to hurt them worse. Right.
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Old March 8, 2006, 09:23 AM   #9
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Just a slight bend in the thread

So, since you mentioned the very bullets I use in service rifle, and if you know, how do these little American missles fare on varmint size critters? Sierra won't recommend them, but that doesn't exactly tell me how they work. I don't seem to have a block of ballistic medium handy.
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Old March 8, 2006, 11:39 AM   #10
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If you look at alot of the Russian (and other) 7.62x39 ammo available, you'll see these "hollowpoints"...they are NOT made to expand as would a traditional handgun hollowpoint. The slight open area in the nose is a result of the manufacturing process. For the most part the behave just like FMJ rounds.
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Old March 8, 2006, 12:15 PM   #11
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Exposed lead at the base AND open at the tip?

That's not a good combination if bullets are being manufactured like that.

On shooting, it's possible that the core can blow out of the jacket, which remains lodged in the barrel, creating an obstruction.


As for US use of "hollowpoints."

The military terms them, I believe, open point, non expanding.

Why? Becase they do NOT expanding upon striking flesh -- they act the same as an FMJ.

The reason for this?

To get the most accurate bullet possible, the base has to be as precise as possible. You can't get that precision with a traditional FMJ bullet, which has an open base, often with exposed lead.

I've seen photos of the Sierra Matchking (still used by the Army and Marine Corps, I believe) bullet after being shot into balistic gelatin.

No expansion.
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