Who Agrees That We Should Americanize The World?

JJB2 · March 3, 2006, 01:36 PM

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exar · March 3, 2006, 02:02 PM

I was always taught that variety is the spice of life.

buzz_knox · March 3, 2006, 02:03 PM

I'd rather reAmericanize the US.

invention_45 · March 3, 2006, 02:35 PM

Leave the rest of the world alone and it will Americanize itself.
Interfere and you'll just create enemies unless you are directly defending America.

Pointer · March 3, 2006, 03:15 PM

Americanize the whole world?

For lack of a better option???

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I'd rather reAmericanize the US.

+ damn 1

Rimrock · March 3, 2006, 03:36 PM

Posted by invention_45

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Leave the rest of the world alone and it will Americanize itself.
Interfere and you'll just create enemies unless you are directly defending America.

Well put! In a free market environment if what were sellin' is so darn good they'd be beatin' a path to our door. Free samples has it's upside but force feeding makes 'em gag!:barf: :barf:

Rimrock

Radiki · March 3, 2006, 05:30 PM

I personally would be happy with just americanizing my town, then I will worry about the city, then the state, then our country and then maybe someone else. While I believe that we do have to keep others in check and try to gain and help allies, as well as fending off terrorists and whatnot. A generation of tomorrow with a better education and an economy that is stable, and a bette pride in one's ownself and country will ensure that we will be the example to strive for in the future instead of the one that is the laughing stock of the world. Everyone spends time critizing everyone else while offering few if any alternatives. I voted for Bush, I will admit he is not the best president we have every had. But at least he is trying to do something. Yes, there have been mistakes and errors. But he does not control the world. If Congress members could all get off their high horses and actual compromise on health care, education and a varity of other topics we might get somewhere. We have turned into this society where it's either-or, red-blue, black-white, republican-democrat. There are other answers and other solutions, but there seems to be some imaginary line drawn in the sand and instead of working on better solutions politicians across the board are trying to force you to choose one side or the other. This results in choosing the lesser of two evils rather than a solution that works. So how are we supposed to effectivly take this attitude and show to the world that our way is better? We can't. And although our intentions are usually good, we can't follow through on anything, because every term of congress and presidency comes with completely different standards and expectations. Should the rest of the world be free? Yes, Should we be doing it? Not until we can do it with a unified sense of pride and courage, to show everyone that we can help and all they need to do is ask. We are the most powerful nation in the world... That makes us responsible for a lot of what happens, But that does not make the world police force or the only source of democracy in the world.

Sorry for the rant, back to the point, Should the world be Free? YES Should it be Americanized? Probably not, unless you mean what we say we stand for and not who we actually are. They say the faults you find in others tend to be your own faults that are locked up inside of you....

Am I making any sense???

Wildalaska · March 3, 2006, 05:35 PM

The Koreans here in Anchorage make better burgers than Americans. The world is already Americanized. Some just dont know it.

Go to Moscow or Tokyo and see examples

WildcaliforniarollAlaska

Eghad · March 3, 2006, 05:46 PM

McDonalds, KFC, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola....are already ahead of the game.

Lets Go back to the year 2003, I am rolling down the road to see some Uzbek customs officials in Uzbekistan. I hear the strains of a familiar western sound. As I get closer it is some guy in a street booth selling pirated Fiddy Cent CDs that have not even been released in the US yet

Take that you Muslim Fundamentalists

"Make capitalism not war"

Handy · March 3, 2006, 05:47 PM

Man, sometimes I wish we acted a little less like Americans. Other cultures don't need 10 credit cards and surround sound.

I hope the rest of the world manages to become peacefully prosperous. You don't have to act like America to do that, and I hope they all won't. Travel is a lot more satifisfying if you don't have to look at Harley Davidson t-shirts in Marakesh.

exar · March 3, 2006, 05:59 PM

+1 Handy

Eghad · March 3, 2006, 06:33 PM

Im keeping my surround sound speak for yourself

Doug.38PR · March 3, 2006, 08:36 PM

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I'd rather reAmericanize the US.

Better yet, I'd rather reSouthernize the South, let the North rePuritanize itself back to it's old roots, let the left coast...repre1960size itself, the West reWesternize itself with a good does of orthedox Christianity in both the West and Left coast. Leave everyone else alone.

Wildalaska · March 3, 2006, 08:54 PM

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the West reWesternize itself with a good does of orthedox Christianity in both the West and Left coast

Gee I got to convert, huh:barf:

WildcominguptoGoodwinslawAlaska

Eghad · March 3, 2006, 09:07 PM

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The Koreans here in Anchorage make better burgers than Americans. The world is already Americanized. Some just dont know it.

Eating them kagogi burgers again

Actually the Koreans make some mean southern fried chicken too. Last time I was is Seoul a bunch of GIs had to be put up at this ritzy hotel, We were on perdiem but the hotel prices were off the hook. Ee walked down the hill into a local neighborhood and found a local resteraunt, the kitchen opened onto the family dining room and the dining room for customers. That was in 1987...we damn near killed ourselves for about $4.00 apiece for all the fried chicken, french fries and coca cola you could handle. Of course the kimchee w/ veggies didnt help much

The roomate said I was violating the Geneva Convention on Chemical Warfare

marks655 · March 3, 2006, 10:01 PM

Just as long as George W. and Cheney do a few weeks convoy duty in the Sunni sector of Iraq in a soft-humvee.

JJB2 · March 3, 2006, 11:32 PM

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DonR101395 · March 4, 2006, 12:13 AM

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McDonalds, KFC, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola....are already ahead of the game.

Lets Go back to the year 2003, I am rolling down the road to see some Uzbek customs officials in Uzbekistan. I hear the strains of a familiar western sound. As I get closer it is some guy in a street booth selling pirated Fiddy Cent CDs that have not even been released in the US yet

Take that you Muslim Fundamentalists

"Make capitalism not war"

+1 Eghad
It was the same when I was in Tashkent in Jan 02. Go to the market and Afroman's I wanna get high is blairing. Then scope out the movies and they had stuff that wasn't released until the spring they were selling for sixty cents.

MicroBalrog · March 4, 2006, 06:33 AM

Remember:

All men are endowed by their Creator by certain inalienable Rights...

That's all men. Everywhere.

And while yes, the spread of American consumerism IS contributing to the spread of capitalism and individual liberty, it should and could be promoted by all available means.

stevelyn · March 4, 2006, 10:52 AM

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I'd rather reAmericanize the US.

Yup. We need to shovel the crap out of our own backyard before we start shoveling in someone else's.

Rimrock · March 4, 2006, 02:11 PM

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Man, sometimes I wish we acted a little less like Americans. Other cultures don't need 10 credit cards and surround sound.

I hope the rest of the world manages to become peacefully prosperous. You don't have to act like America to do that, and I hope they all won't. Travel is a lot more satifisfying if you don't have to look at Harley Davidson t-shirts in Marakesh.

Yeah,That!

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Yup. We need to shovel the crap out of our own backyard before we start shoveling in someone else's.

Yeah, That too!

Rimrock

Pointer · March 4, 2006, 03:56 PM

Hnady

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Other cultures don't need 10 credit cards and surround sound.

You missed the point...

It is having access to things we don't need that epitomizes FREEDOM!

It is also what makes America's economy so great...

It is also what is making the world a better place to live...

Just because the Amazon natives don't NEED a telephone... doesn't mean they wouldn't make good use of it...

Handy · March 4, 2006, 05:26 PM

I didn't miss the point. You might have missed mine, though.

America has problems. Social, economical, political and educational. Our fast food, buy on credit culture is an unfortunate out growth of prosperity, not a happy result. I would hope other cultures would see the problems we have and work to avoid making our mistakes.

Freedom is quite definitely not the ability to buy a 52" television. Even slaves can own property.

Wildalaska · March 4, 2006, 05:51 PM

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America has problems. Social, economical, political and educational. Our fast food, buy on credit culture is an unfortunate out growth of prosperity, not a happy result. I would hope other cultures would see the problems we have and work to avoid making our mistakes.

Maybe we should adapt other culture's cultures.

For example, Korea and Japan are more wired than we are, yet their educational levels and literacy rates are higher.

Some folks carp all the time about "freedom". Maybe they really mean license.

WildjustbecauseitsamericandoesntmakeitthebestAlaska

Redworm · March 4, 2006, 07:23 PM

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Remember:

All men are endowed by their Creator by certain inalienable Rights...

That's all men. Everywhere.

And while yes, the spread of American consumerism IS contributing to the spread of capitalism and individual liberty, it should and could be promoted by all available means.

1. And women.

2. Not everyone believes in a creator to begin with.

3. Not everyone agrees that those are inalienable rights.

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Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 6,228	McDonalds, KFC, Coca-Cola, Pepsi Cola....are already ahead of the game. Lets Go back to the year 2003, I am rolling down the road to see some Uzbek customs officials in Uzbekistan. I hear the strains of a familiar western sound. As I get closer it is some guy in a street booth selling pirated Fiddy Cent CDs that have not even been released in the US yet Take that you Muslim Fundamentalists "Make capitalism not war" __________________ Have a nice day at the range NRA Life Member

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Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 6,228	Im keeping my surround sound speak for yourself __________________ Have a nice day at the range NRA Life Member

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March 4, 2006, 06:33 AM	#19
MicroBalrog Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2002 Posts: 1,168	Remember: All men are endowed by their Creator by certain inalienable Rights... That's all men. Everywhere. And while yes, the spread of American consumerism IS contributing to the spread of capitalism and individual liberty, it should and could be promoted by all available means. __________________ NFAOA Repeal 922(o)!

March 3, 2006, 02:02 PM	#2
exar Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 224	I was always taught that variety is the spice of life.

March 3, 2006, 02:03 PM	#3
buzz_knox Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1999 Location: Knoxville, in the Free State of Tennesse Posts: 4,191	I'd rather reAmericanize the US.

March 3, 2006, 02:35 PM	#4
invention_45 Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2006 Location: Broward County Posts: 972	Leave the rest of the world alone and it will Americanize itself. Interfere and you'll just create enemies unless you are directly defending America.

March 3, 2006, 05:30 PM	#7
Radiki Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2005 Posts: 145	I personally would be happy with just americanizing my town, then I will worry about the city, then the state, then our country and then maybe someone else. While I believe that we do have to keep others in check and try to gain and help allies, as well as fending off terrorists and whatnot. A generation of tomorrow with a better education and an economy that is stable, and a bette pride in one's ownself and country will ensure that we will be the example to strive for in the future instead of the one that is the laughing stock of the world. Everyone spends time critizing everyone else while offering few if any alternatives. I voted for Bush, I will admit he is not the best president we have every had. But at least he is trying to do something. Yes, there have been mistakes and errors. But he does not control the world. If Congress members could all get off their high horses and actual compromise on health care, education and a varity of other topics we might get somewhere. We have turned into this society where it's either-or, red-blue, black-white, republican-democrat. There are other answers and other solutions, but there seems to be some imaginary line drawn in the sand and instead of working on better solutions politicians across the board are trying to force you to choose one side or the other. This results in choosing the lesser of two evils rather than a solution that works. So how are we supposed to effectivly take this attitude and show to the world that our way is better? We can't. And although our intentions are usually good, we can't follow through on anything, because every term of congress and presidency comes with completely different standards and expectations. Should the rest of the world be free? Yes, Should we be doing it? Not until we can do it with a unified sense of pride and courage, to show everyone that we can help and all they need to do is ask. We are the most powerful nation in the world... That makes us responsible for a lot of what happens, But that does not make the world police force or the only source of democracy in the world. Sorry for the rant, back to the point, Should the world be Free? YES Should it be Americanized? Probably not, unless you mean what we say we stand for and not who we actually are. They say the faults you find in others tend to be your own faults that are locked up inside of you.... Am I making any sense???

March 3, 2006, 05:35 PM	#8
Wildalaska Junior member Join Date: November 25, 2002 Location: In my own little weird world in Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 14,174	The Koreans here in Anchorage make better burgers than Americans. The world is already Americanized. Some just dont know it. Go to Moscow or Tokyo and see examples WildcaliforniarollAlaska

March 3, 2006, 05:47 PM	#10
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	Man, sometimes I wish we acted a little less like Americans. Other cultures don't need 10 credit cards and surround sound. I hope the rest of the world manages to become peacefully prosperous. You don't have to act like America to do that, and I hope they all won't. Travel is a lot more satifisfying if you don't have to look at Harley Davidson t-shirts in Marakesh.

March 3, 2006, 05:59 PM	#11
exar Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 224	+1 Handy

March 3, 2006, 10:01 PM	#16
marks655 Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 363	Just as long as George W. and Cheney do a few weeks convoy duty in the Sunni sector of Iraq in a soft-humvee.

March 4, 2006, 05:26 PM	#23
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	I didn't miss the point. You might have missed mine, though. America has problems. Social, economical, political and educational. Our fast food, buy on credit culture is an unfortunate out growth of prosperity, not a happy result. I would hope other cultures would see the problems we have and work to avoid making our mistakes. Freedom is quite definitely not the ability to buy a 52" television. Even slaves can own property.