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Old February 17, 2006, 01:20 PM   #1
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Which powder to replace Unique

Plinking load for 44 mag. I love the performance and light recoil of Unique for my light practice loads, but I don't like the crud it leaves all over my cylinder face.

Is their a comparable powder that cleans up a little easier?

BTW, I'm using 225 gr gold dot hp's.
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Old February 17, 2006, 02:00 PM   #2
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Winchester 231 and/or Hodgdon Universal.
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Old February 17, 2006, 02:41 PM   #3
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I also just got rid of my Unique. I chose Titegroup. A little faster burning than Unique, also uses less powder. Makes my redhawk into a pop-gun. Seems much cleaner, even in my snubby.
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Old February 17, 2006, 05:11 PM   #4
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Another vote for Universal
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Old February 17, 2006, 06:08 PM   #5
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Replace Unique?

I think that if you will increase the pressure of your loads a little bit (OK, maybe more that just a little bit) Unique will burn considerably cleaner.
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Old February 17, 2006, 11:30 PM   #6
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Universal is a near dead on substitute for Unique with jacketed bullets, much cleaner too. I don't like it with lead.

Tite-Group smokes like a steam locomotive with lead, don't like it either with lead though with Jacketed it runs well.

231 is OK.

Power Pistol is a great choice for lead and jacketed, as is Super Field.
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Old February 18, 2006, 02:23 AM   #7
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Old February 18, 2006, 08:29 AM   #8
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ditto

Power Pistol

Universal Clays

HS6
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Old February 18, 2006, 03:13 PM   #9
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WW296 for plinking loads?

Winchester cautions against the reductions of their published loads and the potential for dangerous pressure rises with less than 90% load density with 296.
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Old February 18, 2006, 03:32 PM   #10
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Power pistol.
HS-6
WSF
Unique.
Those powders, (And blue dot.) pretty much cover the entire spectrum of handgun reloading.. (OK, maybe clays too.)
There was another powder I used, and had good results with. (Can't remember offhand.)
I haven't shot plinking loads in .44 mag in years. 23.0 grains H110+ CCI 350+ XTP-HP 240 gr+ starline cases= shooting nirvana. (Psst. after you shoot some REALLY hot stuff, the starting H110 loads feel mild because of the slow push.)
I really think it's much more recoil friendly than an airweight .38 or my .41 mag taurus tracker, for instance.
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Old February 18, 2006, 09:14 PM   #11
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+1 for PP

+1 for Power Pistol the stuff is great...

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Old February 18, 2006, 10:19 PM   #12
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Jclaude's recommendation to possibly increase the charge of Unique is a good one, although you don't say the charge you're using now. I had originally been using 7 grains of Unique with Lasercast 200 grain RNFP bullets and it was really dirty. Raising the charge to 8 grains cleaned it up considerably. I should point out that this is with older Hercules Unique, not Alliant Unique.

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Old February 18, 2006, 10:36 PM   #13
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I don't understand your thought process. You like the performance, but not the crud. Don't you think that performance is more important?

Raising the pressure will clean it up. New Unique is just as clean as Universal Clays, just shot them together so I had an opportunity to compare the two side-by-side.
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Old February 19, 2006, 10:23 AM   #14
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Performance is THE most important. I'm not looking for worse performance. If there is no equal to Unique, then I'll go buy a bunch of lead-away cloths.If there is a cleaner burning powder with equal or better performance, I figured you guys would know about it.

Thats all.

BTW....11.5 gr Unique under 225 gr GDHP. Not quite max per my manual.
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Old February 19, 2006, 01:24 PM   #15
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You might see how you like 2400, it is a very clean burning powder
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Old February 19, 2006, 02:12 PM   #16
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2400 for light practice loads, clean?
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Old February 19, 2006, 02:21 PM   #17
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Heh. Not in my gun either. But the performance is there so I could care less how dirty it gets. I'll have to clean it anyway so who cares if it takes a little longer as long as it does what I want it to.
2400 rules for 44's.
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Old February 19, 2006, 05:33 PM   #18
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Guess I never loaded it down enough to burn dirty but it is an excellent and versatile powder for 44 mag and 357 max loads in all bullet weights
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Old February 19, 2006, 06:11 PM   #19
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+1 Universal
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Old February 19, 2006, 07:50 PM   #20
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How about this IMR Trailboss? Full load density, clean and accurate.
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Old February 19, 2006, 08:35 PM   #21
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I use H110 in my magnums it burns fast and clean and Unique in all my other pistol loads. It's dirty, but inexpensive and works well.
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Old February 19, 2006, 11:07 PM   #22
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The guy wanted a powder for target loads. 2400 and 110 are inappropriate as they will not burn completely at low pressures and will leave crap all over the gun.
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Old February 20, 2006, 09:18 AM   #23
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Sorry about that 918, my vote goes to 231 for clean burning
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Old February 20, 2006, 10:03 AM   #24
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Trail Boss

"pen pal' has already reported a PHFFFFT

I care about cleanliness as it relates to function, or "Why I don't use Bullseye or Unique in serious ammo".

I don't use any powder that offers the potential lack of reliability like these two....(although I know of someone running 5.5g Unique / 115g for sub-guns...."...in MY gun...", ay?)

IME Universal Clays, when used in handguns, is clearly cleaner than Unique.

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9x19 = 3N37, WAP
38 Special = HS6
357 Magnum = Universal Clays
40 S&W = Power Pistol
41 Magnum = Universal Clays
44 Magnum = Universal Clays
45 ACP = N350 (and W231; I've gone over 5K in my 1911 without a strip-clean)
45 Colt = Universal Clays
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Old February 22, 2006, 01:52 AM   #25
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new W231 convert

Along with my new scale, I thought I would try a new powder since I ran out of unique. I wanted to make a lot of low-recoil/blast/flash loads for my 329PD, which is a bit brutal with full throttle loads. long story short, I am very pleased with W231. It seems to be just right for light loads in the .44 with cast bullets. So long, Unique.

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