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Old January 28, 2006, 09:27 PM   #1
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Up close and personal weapon: The Tomahawk?

Watching the movie The Patriot earlier today on TNT got me to thinking, that and growing up having watch Fess Parker handle a Tomahawk.

Wouldn't a sort of tomahawk be a good up close and personal weapon to conceal on you if you ever ran out of ammo and had to get up close and personal. Go Mel Gibson on the redcoats.

Guess this is sort of a sequel to my roll of quarters in a sock thread that everyone seems to love
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Old January 28, 2006, 09:55 PM   #2
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Wouldn't a sort of tomahawk be a good up close and personal weapon to conceal on you if you ever ran out of ammo and had to get up close and personal.
A good fixed blade knife would be even easier. Some folks have even had the novel idea of carrying a reload or even a second gun!

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Old January 29, 2006, 12:01 AM   #3
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Tomahawk?? No thanks. I'll stick with my S&W HRT. I carry it right behind my 2 spare magazines.
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Old January 29, 2006, 12:17 AM   #4
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Just google and read a few pages on:
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Old January 29, 2006, 03:06 AM   #5
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If I was going to carry a non-gun as a weapon, I think I would like something a lil more "stabby" than a tomahawk. Reason is, if the gun is no longer an option, it will be because I am grappling with the BG. I won't be able to swing something very well then either.
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Old January 29, 2006, 11:29 AM   #6
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I'm with the knife crowd. The basic disadvantage of a tomahawk is that it requires a swing to build up enough momentum to do damage. A knife is much more convenient, and also more concealable.

Not that you have to conceal a knife.
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Old January 29, 2006, 12:08 PM   #7
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Apparently some of our soliders in Iraq second your idea on the use of an ax:
http://www.theothersideofkim.com/index.php/tos/8991/
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Old January 29, 2006, 02:56 PM   #8
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Here's a link to an interesting article on using tomahawk (in PDF format). It's a small file and worthy of a look, anyway...

http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/cssto.../tomahawks.pdf
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Old January 29, 2006, 03:12 PM   #9
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As a former 'redcoat', as soon as I saw the tomohawk coming out I'd have put a rather large ball straight through your chest courtesy of my musket.
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Old January 29, 2006, 03:54 PM   #10
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i use a tomahawk when i go camping. good for cutting wood, throwing, defense. but in the city i carry a spyderco knife.
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Old January 29, 2006, 04:47 PM   #11
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As they used to say in the 1800s "Give me a knife like Bowie;s."
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Old January 29, 2006, 06:24 PM   #12
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The guy who runs one of the top shooting schools in the country keeps a tomahawk in his vehicle. If you are ever trapped inside or under water & need to break out the windshield, it's a great tool. If someone reaches into the vehicle, it would also serve to dissuade them if you lopped off a hand!

And, they are "camping gear", legal everywhere. Probably even in Kalifornia!
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Old January 29, 2006, 08:06 PM   #13
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Certain groups in Nam like the Gerber model "tomahawk".
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Old January 29, 2006, 08:10 PM   #14
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Tomahawk

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Old January 30, 2006, 04:33 AM   #15
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If it is up close, I am a bare handed supporter. "Empty" hand combat inflicts physical damage, pain control points and a palm to the nostrils will be of better effect.
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Old January 30, 2006, 05:24 AM   #16
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pain control points and a palm to the nostrils will be of better effect.

Assuming the other dude lets you...Sort of like how all of Jean-Claude Van Damm's opponents just wait, with their hands down, for him to kick them in the face?


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Old January 30, 2006, 12:21 PM   #17
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Ohhh I can't remember the name of the show on the History Channel, but it was a bald guy with a British accent talking about various weapons and tactics...anyway an axe or a hatchet is a good weapon, however it takes a lot of energy to use it, so if you don't get the BG in the first couple of swings, or if your fighting multiple guys your going to get worn out. Stabbing takes less effort, that why the little Romans did so well.

P.S. Combat...that is the name of the series.

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Old January 30, 2006, 12:28 PM   #18
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You guys can have your fu man chu and pocket knives and I'll stick with my CQC hawk.
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Old January 31, 2006, 01:01 AM   #19
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Knives are preferable most of the time, but for offensive use, I do prefer a hatchet. 1 1/4lb Plumb Official BSA model. Don't care for a 'hawk, too thin.

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Old January 31, 2006, 08:19 AM   #20
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Ohhh I can't remember the name of the show on the History Channel, but it was a bald guy with a British accent talking about various weapons and tactics
The show was called Conquest and the History Channel are too mean to show it again or put it out on video or dvd despite the request of hundreds if not thousands of people. The gits. But they always there with the tripe shows ready on dvd for $25 a pop. Rant complete.

Yes axes make very good weapons if you are practiced in using them and usually have the strength to back up the blow. I used to use them when re-enacting saxon and viking combat. Neat little buggers.
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Old January 31, 2006, 11:16 AM   #21
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Limeyfellow...+1 your correct...Good show...they did everything from sword fighting to SWAT tactics. Real interesting.

The axe one was real funny and scary. He basically showed why the Vikings did so well by giving a guy a real sword (probably not fully sharp) and a wooden shield, then he picked up an real axe (again not real sharp) and said "Ready" and he proceeded to attack this poor guy. All the guy could do was cower and soil himself as this maniac literally went berzerker on him until his shield broke. The guy is brilliant but nuts.

P.S I agree...while I love History Channel shows...they are a greedy bunch
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Old January 31, 2006, 08:48 PM   #22
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"Certain groups in Nam like the Gerber model "tomahawk"."


Actually it was from a company called W.A.K. and they were 1/4" thick stamped out and hardened blackened spring steel with a riveted slabbed brown grip material. I brought one back from Nam in 1970. My kids eventually destroyed it in mid 80's. I rewelded back together and gave it away in mid 90s.
An all steel small Swedish fire axe is actually the hot hook up for mayhem,and Yes as a safety device they ARE legal in your vehicle in Kali.(unless you are a bad guy).The court defense on using one to defend yourself, if you had held your mouth right, would be MUCH more defensible than a knife or gun, actually. It being a convienent safety tool and all you were lucky enough to have at hand!A proper axe attack is very hard to defend against(ask Jason's victims!) it knocks away knives and such.
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Old January 31, 2006, 09:12 PM   #23
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I have a last resort edged weapon stashed in the house that combines the benifits of knife and tomahawk.

The Kukri.

http://www.coldsteel.com/fixed-blades-gurkhas.html

Mine isn't as pretty but is equally no-nonsense

http://www.atlantacutlery.com/websto...a%20Kukri.aspx
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Old January 31, 2006, 11:22 PM   #24
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I don't know, I'd have to say I'm more of a pike kind of guy.
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Old January 31, 2006, 11:41 PM   #25
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How about a halbred? Now theres an Axe!
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