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Old December 17, 2005, 05:39 PM   #1
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Howa .243 Varmint

CDNN has some Howa varmint rifles on sale that look like a pretty good deal. $339.99 for a heavy barreled .243 w/ synthetic stock.

thinking about getting one and I have some questions.

1) How long is the expected barrel life of a .243? Assuming I use mostly 80 grains or up on bullet weights?

2) What is the qulaity level of the Howa 1500's? No experience with them. Pretty nice, accurate guns for the money? Fit and finish good? HOw good are teh Howa Synthetic stocks...I generally prefer wood or laminate.

Not sure I want to get one, but I am curious.
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Old December 18, 2005, 04:53 AM   #2
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1) tens of thousands of rounds - more $ than you pay for the rifle anyway

2) The bigger calibers are accurate and well crafted. Fit and finnish are better than any new Remchesters I've seen in a long time. The synthetic stocks that I have seen on Howa's are the Butler Creek type and are some of the better injection molded stocks I have seen.

You can get a varminter in a laminate stock from Leagacy sports for around $600, I believe. Or, you can get one cut for you by Richards Microfit stocks (or just about any other stock maker)



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Old December 18, 2005, 10:17 PM   #3
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interesting...I have always heard that the .243 was a barrel burner. Also, anyone know the twist rate in the .243 varmint? Is it set up for 55 grainers or would the 100 grainers be good out of it? Being that it is a varmint rifle I figure it might have a different twist rate.
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Old December 19, 2005, 01:34 AM   #4
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This whole concept of "barrel burning," is strictly cerebral for most individuals. There is the rare individual that shoots so much that they need to replace a barrel. However, these individuals have shooting engrained as such a large part of who they are, they are excited to put a barrel on a gun. Would you really take a .243 over a 22 250 if you are going to a high volume prarie dog shoot, most probably would not.
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Old December 19, 2005, 01:58 AM   #5
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"...heard that the .243 was a barrel burner..." Whoever told you that is confused. Most .243's have 1 in 10 rifling, but 1 in 9 and 1 in 12 isn't unusual either. 1 in 12 is better for light varmint bullets up to 90 grains. 1 in 9 stabilizes most bullet weights.
The Howa Supreme Varmint in .223 and .308 has 1 in 12 rifling. I'm guessing, but I suspect the .243 would be the same. Howa doesn't seem to publish rifling specs though.
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Old December 19, 2005, 08:38 AM   #6
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I think the twist rate for the varmint is the same as the standard....the only differences between the two is the heavy barrel. I am gonna call legacy to confirm, but if you download the 1500 manuals it lists all of the twist rates and though the .243 varmint is not listed, all of the other guns (including the .308) have the same twist rate as the regular rifle.
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Old December 19, 2005, 03:35 PM   #7
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The twist rate of the Howa .243 HB is in fact 1 in 10".

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Howa doesn't seem to publish rifling specs though.
That's what I thought until I looked harder:

It shows the all the twist rates of the Howas on this PDF only under the "barreled actions" section:

http://www.legacysports.com/LSI_2005RetailCatalog.pdf

(page 10 of 24).

IINM, the 1 in 10 rate is good for everything from 55 up to 95 or 100. But IINM, 105/107s (and ideally, 100s too) and up need a 1 in 9 twist, unless you're lucky and your rifle happens to like them. It's *possible* that a 1 in 10 will spin some 55 grainers apart, but I doubt it.

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Old December 19, 2005, 03:38 PM   #8
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GOod...most I would shoot is 80 to 100 grainers. I don't like the 55's because they are hard to find in my area, way too expensive, and I just prefer the 80 grain varmint bullets.
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Old December 19, 2005, 07:44 PM   #9
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I was looking at a new .243 and wan't to shoot 55 grain bullets and 100 grain bullets and the rifle is in 1-10 so looks like im in luck. I was woundering when i change from 55 grain bullets and the 100 grain bullets will there be any windage change or just elevation? With my 22lr when i change bullets somtimes they have different windage. Has anyone tried the 55 grain bullets in the .243 how devastating are they?
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I would shoot 70-80 grainers if you want a varmint bullet. THe 55 grainers are really high velocity (barrel well) and don't buck wind very well. There are some excellent varmint loads available with 70-80 grain bullets.
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