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Old December 7, 2005, 01:25 PM   #1
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500 Linebaugh Maximum

I'm wondering if anyone has a revolver chambered for this round and what they think of it. Also, how does it compare to the S&W 500 mag? I'm sure this is probably a custom job but who exactly does these conversions? Since buying my .454 about 6 months ago I'm totally crazy about big bore revolvers
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Old December 7, 2005, 01:41 PM   #2
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An email to Bowen Classic Arms may give you some info...

They do all sorts of conversions to ruger single actions and redhawks. They do .500 linebaugh to Bisleys I believe.

And I think they do redhawks, too.
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Old December 7, 2005, 02:21 PM   #3
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500 Maximum

Big Yac,

I've got a 500 Maximum from David Clements (and my brother does as well.) With similar barrel lengths, it is pretty much on par with the 500 S&W (until you start playing with John Ross-style LONG-nosed bullets.) 450 grains at 1500-1550 fps from a 6 - 6.5" barrel is generally considered the top end for the maxi. Personally, from my 5" barrel, I've pushed 420's @ 1550, 500's @ just under 1400, and even a few 580's @ just over 1200. I know a shooter with one of Linebaugh's guns who has pushed 450's as fast as 1625 fps, and that particular load has broken at least 2 fingers.

Bowen will no longer do these conversions, and Clements doesn't particularly want to. John Linebaugh will still do them. I think there are a couple of lesser-known guys who will do them, but I'd be hesitant to recommend them. Gary Reeder also builds them, but only on his proprietary beefed-up frame.



azredhawk44,

The 500 Maximum aka 500 Long aka 500 Linebaugh 1.6" is .200" longer than the standard 500 Linebaugh, so it can't be done on a standard Bisley/Blackhawk or Redhawk frame -- only on the long-discontinued Ruger 357 Maximum frame (or the aforementioned Reeder frame). I suppose it would also work on the BFR stretch frame and the S&W X-frame.


Here's a picture of my gun:


Here's what it does to your wrists with full-power loads:

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Old December 7, 2005, 02:29 PM   #4
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i'd want a helmet to wear if i shot one of those.
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Old December 7, 2005, 02:49 PM   #5
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whooooooooweee; I think I'd only use it as a single shot. I don't like where that muzzle points in full recoil.
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Old December 7, 2005, 03:01 PM   #6
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I love big bore revolvers and I own a Ruger SRH in 454casull and I mostly shoot it with 300grainers @ 1850 fps loads, but this isnt funny anymore.
I would not shoot such a ''thing''.:barf:
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Old December 7, 2005, 03:27 PM   #7
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My bad...

You guys are masochists...

.44 mag is enough for me, but you go for it if you want.
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Old December 7, 2005, 04:45 PM   #8
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WOW! Besides my .454 Casull I've shot a S&W 500 and 460Mag, I've shot a .480 Ruger and a .445 SuperMag. I didnt feel any of these guns recoiled bad at all. After looking at your pictures I'm wondering if maybe I'd be better off going with the S&W 500. I was thinking it would be cool to have a Redhawk or Super Redhawk converted to 500 Max(if possible) but after seeing those pictures it would be very dangerous for the gun to be a double action considering where the barrel looks to be pointing after recoil. Tell me, how does one hold such a gun? Do you keep your elbows locked and wrists free? Thats how I've shot all the big bore revolvers. Also, have you used that beast to hunt with?
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Old December 7, 2005, 10:43 PM   #9
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Moloch,

Everybody handles recoil differently, but with the possible exception of the absolute max loads, I would much rather shoot this gun than your 300's @ 1850 in the SRH. Those big DA's HURT me.



Big Yac,

Those pictures are worst case scenario. They are top end loads, and inexperienced shooters. The first is me right after getting the gun and feeling the need to "see what it can do." The second is a friend of my brother's with almost no experience. I've looked, frame by frame, at lots of video of the gun being fired by multiple shooters, and the picture above is the only instance where the muzzle came that far around. He was determined to shoot it, so we spent the better part of a day working him up to it, starting with 38 specials.

Most importantly, there's nothing that says you have to run it full tilt all the time. I pretty much got that out of my system, and most of what I shoot now is a 420 grain bullet around 1100 fps. At 900 fps, my wife, mom and MIL have all shot and enjoyed it.

If you want a Redhawk or SRH, you'll have to stick with the 1.4" Linebaugh (or one of the shortened 500 Smiths,) but you'll hardly be lacking in power. A buddy has a RH in 500 and it is a handful.

I definitely don't lock my elbows. Best way to describe it is a modified weaver stance. Arms slightly bent, pushing with the right hand and pulling with the left. A good firm grip naturally stiffens up the wrist, but you can hold it too tight.

Yes, I've hunted with it. I killed a little whitetail buck last year, and hope to use it to put a doe in the freezer next week.



It's a little out-dated, but there's a short article here.

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Old December 8, 2005, 01:03 AM   #10
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the 300gr Hornady XTP's @ 1850fps are what I shoot from my 454...infact thats my deer load. These loads dont bother me at all, I sometimes shoot 40 or 60 at one sitting. I thought that same thing too about a 500 Max, one could work up loads until one reaches full power instead of starting off with full power. I think maybe having already shot a good number of big revolvers this shouldnt be too much of a surprise. Why do all these big revolvers have short barrels? I like long barrels, its why I got my 454 with the 9.5" barrel. By the way that is a very fine looking gun you have there.
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Old December 8, 2005, 06:23 AM   #11
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Hey Cannon that gun is starting to look like its been shot a little Its still a beauty though. Cannon even had me flinching at the linebaugh seminar with that little beast!!
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Old December 9, 2005, 01:44 AM   #12
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I've been doing a good bit of research on the .500 Linebaugh Maximum and pretty much from what I find it is about even with the 500 S&W. What the 500 Linebaugh Max seems to offer is that you can pack it easier, it doesnt weigh 72oz or have an 8 3/8" barrel. Dont get me wrong, I still like the idea of a 500 Max and that its different, not alot of people have one...I will have one as well as a 500S&W

By the way, I must say it is refreshing to find others like me who dont get these big bore revolvers because we want to look tough, we get them because we like them.
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Old December 9, 2005, 02:03 AM   #13
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Hey Big Yac,

I know you had looked at the 45/70 BFR in the past. They have'em in S&W 500 mag. and 460 with barrels up to 10 inches.

They also have a .450 marlin 10 incher that does:

350 grain Hornady, average 1814 FPS and muzzle energy 2558 FT/LBS

Sorry if you have gone over this before, I've been away from the forum for awhile.
Anway, I saw this 500 at Bud's and thought of you:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...fc7bb931e94512




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