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Old November 30, 2005, 03:07 PM   #26
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Ian, not flaming anybody here, just I have most of the calibers mentioned and use them regularly, all the 22s have the wind problem, the 223 as much as the 222,the 22-250 does better with 55 or 60 gr bullets but still drifts off with any serious amount of crosswind. The 6.5 swe with 140gr bullet bucks the wind great but is a bit over what kirbymagnum is after I think. I seem to remember too that he has a 223 already but wants something a bit less power and noise, I may be wrong on that though. Lets face it there are no really bad rounds now and as Ive said before any excuse to buy another rifle has to be good!!!
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Old November 30, 2005, 08:19 PM   #27
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any excuse to buy another rifle has to be good!!!
I like that. I have a 243 but it is to much just to shoot stuff so i think the 223 would be good. Cheap ammo and is smaller but still has a bang? Is that a good reason?
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Old November 30, 2005, 09:37 PM   #28
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I'm amused with the way this thread has drifted. It originated with the .17 HMR, and now we're recommending 6.5 Swedes and .243s. I suppose that .270s and the .30s will be next...


Kirby, if you're concerned about report and recoil, look into .22 Hornets. They're far quieter than any of the other centerfire varmint rifles. With the 45 grain bullet, you ought to have no problem with a beaver. They're quite accurate, and moderately priced. Savage offers a combo gun in the Hornet and a shotgun barrel which would be great for a trapper, and NEF makes a nifty Handi Rifle in .22 Hornet for cheap, and can utilize multiple barrels for inexpensive caliber variation. Accuracy can be quite good. I also like that you can put 10 .22 Hornet cartridges into a 35 mm film canister; they're quite handy.
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Old November 30, 2005, 10:00 PM   #29
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Recoil or the level of noise isnt a problam i just dont want somthing really loude and shoots flat and of course accurate. How flat does the hornet shoot compaired to the .223?
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Old November 30, 2005, 10:17 PM   #30
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unless you just want another rifle i see no reason to not use the 22lr. it works right? and the ammo is cheap and report is low. it seems to be what you are looking for.
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Old November 30, 2005, 10:58 PM   #31
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Just get a bolt-action .50BMG and wear good ear protection.
It's good for ANY size target.
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Old December 1, 2005, 02:03 PM   #32
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One of the reasons is i wan't a new gun. I have a .22lr are the 50BMG legal in Canada?
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Old December 1, 2005, 05:56 PM   #33
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Midway USA has 11 differant loads in 222! Federal,winchester,PMC,Hornady,Remington I have the same problem with my 25-06 Walmart only has two differant loads for it! So I mail order all my Ammo for it. It seems to me if your not shooting a 30-06,270,or 22-250 no one has much for what your shooting.

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Old December 1, 2005, 09:49 PM   #34
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+1 for Midway. They get a LOT of my money.

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As far as I know. It's sort of expensive, though. Rifles cost upwards of US$2000. Ammo costs about US$2.00/round to reload with decent bullets.
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Old December 2, 2005, 12:07 PM   #35
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Recoil or the level of noise isnt a problam i just dont want somthing really loude and shoots flat and of course accurate. How flat does the hornet shoot compaired to the .223?
Low noise is a nice thing in a varmint rifle. Some semi-rural areas are completely inappropriate to touch off a .220 Swift or even just a .222 or .223, but a quiet .22 Hornet or .22 WMRF (and of course .22 LR) would be fine. The Hornet is far flatter than a .22 LR or WMRF, but is a little less flat than a .223 or .222. There's not enough difference to worry about: With Remington loadings, the drop for a .22 Hornet .45 grain zero'd at 150 is 4.3" at 200 yards, while the drop for a .223 55g zero'd at 150 is 2.1". MV for the Hornet 45g load is listed at 2690, and MV for the .223 load is 3240. Trust me: the beaver (or coyote, or muskrat, or other small critter) won't know the difference at under 200 yards.

Price on the Hornet ammo is really quite cheap. While it is about $15 a box, that's a box of 50, not the 20 rd boxes you usually get with other rifle cartridges. And it's about the cheapest cartridge to reload for, with almost a thousand rounds possible per pound of powder.

Accuracy at 100 yards is quite good. My NEF Handi Rifle only gives me an inch at 100 yards, but I have a pretty bad trigger on that sub-$200 rifle. I'm sure that there are better rifles giving much better accuracy than that.
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