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Old November 15, 2005, 05:46 PM   #1
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22-250 vs 223

1.what do you think is better for varminting?
2.what do you think is more explosive?
3.what do you think is more accurate and flat shooting?
4.wich one has more power how do they preforme compared to the 243?
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Old November 15, 2005, 05:57 PM   #2
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I have both. They will both be close but the 22-250 will be faster. The 22-250 ammo is ALOT more expensive than .223.
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Old November 15, 2005, 06:21 PM   #3
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I have both but my rigs are different. I use the 22-250 in a Win 70 HBV and it is heavy topped with an 8x32 Burris Signature. I use it for my long range rested shots. My 223 is in TC Contender 21" Bull BBL. Now that is one sweet walking varminter. Light and accurate. The 223 will serve in a heavy varmint rifle too, but I prefer the longer range the 22-250 offers. I would say the 223 is one efficient varminter round. josh
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Old November 15, 2005, 09:47 PM   #4
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simple 22-250 faster flater and loger distance combine that with a winchester model 70 and a leupold 10 x or 12x now thats the setup
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Old November 15, 2005, 10:03 PM   #5
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If all you want to do is hunt varmints, maybe.

However, the AR-15 in 223 can easily group 2" at 200 yds, and varmints, as well as win combat rifle or NRA High Power Rifle matches. The bolt action can't do anything of the kind, so you get more for your money with the AR-15.
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Old November 15, 2005, 10:03 PM   #6
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The 22-250 ammo is ALOT more expensive than .223.[
When i was looking at ammo prices the 22-250 was cheaper by 2 bucks
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Old November 15, 2005, 10:05 PM   #7
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You must have been looking at match grade 223 ammo

Because the 223 ammo is cheaper, altho not by much, unless you get the milsurp stuff, which lacks the ability to get clean kills, and which aint very accurate. It is cheap, however, as low as 15c a shot, vs 45c a shot for 22-250.
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Old November 15, 2005, 10:11 PM   #8
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hayeh, ill let you borrow my 22-250 winchester it cloverleaves at 250 all day long. i cant remember the last time i bought a box though. but ill give the 223 that its cheap fun.
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Old November 15, 2005, 11:18 PM   #9
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22-250 uses almost 2 times the powder to move the same bullet. It will be fun while it lasts, but it won't last as long ( the barrel throat will burn out, and your accuracy goes to heck...)
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Old November 16, 2005, 10:30 AM   #10
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If you're doing a lot of varminting at ranges inside of 300 yards (at a prairie dog town, for instance), the .223 is more practical. If you're shooting rather infrequently (say, on woodchucks or coyotes), and at longer ranges, the .22-250 is the better performer.

Basically, a "standard" load for the .223 is a 50- to 55-grain bullet at around 3,000 to 3,200 ft/sec. The same bullets from a .22-250 are at some 3,800 ft/sec. Roughly; I'm too lazy to go to the book.

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Old November 18, 2005, 03:03 PM   #11
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1.what do you think is better for varminting?
2.what do you think is more explosive?
3.what do you think is more accurate and flat shooting?
4.wich one has more power how do they preforme compared to the 243?
Ah, the eternal varmint question. I would definatly go for the .223, no contest. Its cheaper, guns last longer, ammo is easier to get, it is not as loud, shoots just as well and is almost as flat. IT doesnt quite pulverise as much as a .223, but that should not be a reason to favor a rifle. You also get less recoil, so without a spotter you can see the bullets splash and adjust fire accordingly.
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Old November 18, 2005, 06:46 PM   #12
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Question 22-250 vs 223 ?

1.what do you think is better for varminting?
2.what do you think is more explosive?
3.what do you think is more accurate and flat shooting?
4.which one has more power how do they preforme compared to the 243?

answers: lets do them one by one..

1. who is behind the trigger an who has the most money
2.get the rite barrel twist for a 70gr bullet an a quality lr scope
3.who's doing the reloading an to have a long enough barrel
4. 22-250 hands down

with that said.....get the rite twist an at least a 26" heavy barrell along w/ a good quality Varmit scope a good reloader an a trigger man, you'll shoot at Praire dogs @ 600 yrds with a .223 , but then you''ll kill them with the 22-250
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Old November 18, 2005, 10:40 PM   #13
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MrGee is pointing you the right direction . I always thought it was stupid of the manufacturers to put 12 and even 14 twist barrels on a 22-250.you need heavier bullets for longer distances, and you need faster twists for the heavy bullets.I shoot w/ 8 twist in the ar-15 service rifle (slow prone part is shot 600 yds) throwing 80 gr. sierra. some guys use 7 twist, a few have gone clear to 6.5 for a specialty 90 gr bullet.
I had my minister out to the club so he could sight in his '06 deer rifle . I tried explaining twists and bullet wts, and was losing him fast . so I asked him " which is faster , a winston cup race car or top fuel dragster? " well- it depends- you don't have enoug info -what cicumstances. I also used that analogy when talking about accuracy. His deer rifle is made to place 1 round exactly where it's aimed- maybe a follow-up shot or 2... My match rifles are made to shot 10 shots in 60 seconds.
Sorry to run on. long story short- there are difft scenarios where each is better and worse. but I'd start w/ the 223....
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Old November 19, 2005, 08:46 AM   #14
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.223 great varmit gun cheap ammo,you can shoot it more.
.22-250 alittle more range,a little faster
.243 will shoot a 55 gr. even faster ,also great deer gun 100gr.
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Old June 13, 2009, 11:34 PM   #15
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Better?? Prove it.

kirbymagnum, and others, I agree with much of your statement, but prove the pudding.



Questions:
1. what "do you think" is better for varminting?
2. what "do you think" is more explosive?
3. what "do you think" is more accurate, flatter-shooting?
4. which "do you think" has more power, performance compared to .243?
5. .223 great varmit gun, cheap ammo, you can shoot it more.
6. .22-250 a little more range, a little faster, bit more expensive.
7. .243 will shoot a 55 gr. even faster, also great deer gun 100gr.
JUST ONE POINT OF VIEW, NOT SKEPTICISM, BUT
ASKING FOR PROOF AND HOW TO FIND IT.
1. Question should be "which has proven better...." AND SHOW DATA.
2. Same idea, same answer.
3. "What has PROVEN to be flattest, at what range, loads/bullet weights?"
4. Check the charts for each, then compare .243. Compare price/1,000.
5. Online urban legend. Do you reload? What is "more?" except price.
6. How much "little more" range, how much more speed, load/bullet.
7. Very little research will prove/disprove these statements,
and provide lots of fun while compiling it.

I'm probably going .22-250 and will post my data.
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Old June 13, 2009, 11:51 PM   #16
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always thought it was stupid of the manufacturers to put 12 and even 14 twist barrels on a 22-250.you need heavier bullets for longer distances, and you need faster twists for the heavy bullets.
This is somewhat of a new thing in 22 centerfire shooting. The 22 centerfires were never meant to be employed at the ridicules ranges current shooters are pushing them to. I have never seen the need for a tricked out 22 centerfire with a fast twist and heavy bullets when I can just grab the old 243, 6mm, or 308 and shoot all the heavy stuff I want.

I like shooting 40-55 grain bullets in my 22's so I need nothing more than a 1 in 12. If I want to shoot 60+ grain bullets I'll reach for my 243 and go from there.

As far as the OP it would all depend on my shooting, if it were for groundhogs, yotes, and the occasional prairie dog hunt then the 22-250 for the added velocity, flatter trajectory, and greater energy. If I were into more sustained fire like a lot of PD hunts or all of my shooting would be 300 or under then the 223 would be my choice.
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Old June 13, 2009, 11:54 PM   #17
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1.what do you think is better for varminting?
Out of the two, of which I own both, the 22-250 is my bragging gun, but I shoot the 223 more. It's more pleasant to shoot if you are going to shoot a lot.
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2.what do you think is more explosive?
Hands down, the 22-250, assuming the same bulets are fired. You can pick and choose bullets to make the 223 pretty spectacular, but a 55 gr out of a 22-250 at 3900 fps will actually dismantle a coyote.
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3.what do you think is more accurate and flat shooting?
This of kinda depends on the shooter, and I will say that many 223s are very accurate, but remember the 22-250 began its career as a benchrest cartridge, and many 22-250s are spectacularly accurate, in addition to being the flatter shooting of the two.
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4.wich one has more power how do they preforme compared to the 243?
The 22-250 is the winner in the original question, but the 243 will set them both in the back seat.
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Old June 13, 2009, 11:59 PM   #18
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I have both. The 22-250 is all I would hunt with until I got the 22 hornet. We don't get to shoot much over 200 yards. Neck are head shoot will drop a deer in its tracks. I have shoot them in the shoulder and drop them with in 50 yards with the 22-250 and just walmart rem 55 gr soft point ammo. I got to 223 just to play with. The 22-250 is a ruger and the 223 is a big barrel savage. Now I think the 22-250 is not as loud are don't have the recoil of the 223. But that is a savage for you. LOL
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Old June 14, 2009, 12:38 AM   #19
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kirbymagnum, and others, I agree with much of your statement, but prove the pudding.
*sigh* Another OLD thread...

Seeing that this is dang near a 4 year old thread and his last post was in June of 2008, I don't think he's going to be answering your questions.

Come on, folks. Why are y'all digging up these ancient threads? Why to you insist on doing so even after the thread age icon pops up warning you as such?
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Old June 14, 2009, 12:45 AM   #20
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Never even looked at the date, now dont I feel like a horses ass. As far as a thread age icon I dont know what that is, I'll have to look for it as I dont want to add to this again.
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Old June 14, 2009, 01:38 AM   #21
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As far as a thread age icon I dont know what that is, I'll have to look for it as I dont want to add to this again.
By the time you had posted the thread had already been "refreshed" by the previous poster.

Basically when you try to post on a very old thread you get a warning that the thread is very old.

Thread age is defined by how long it's been since the last post on the thread and since you posted only after someone else had bypassed the "old thread warning" and added a recent post you didn't get the warning.
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Old June 2, 2010, 10:40 PM   #22
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I'm new here and know it's an old thread but for my two cents the .22-250 is one of my favorite rifles. It's a no brainer to take when I go kangaroo shooting and can easily take down a roo at 500 yards. From the bench it can blow up soda cans every shot at 300yards so is plenty accurate.
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