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Old November 16, 2005, 02:25 PM   #26
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Hayley, thats the one. I live about 10 miles from there. I have learned that the intruder lived in the house many years ago and I believe lived just a few blocks or miles from this house, and was pretty much a really good person, he graduated college with engineering degrees, i think he was in the armed forces and was an actor that had been on the tv show Alias. As of right know they have no idea why he entered the house.
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Old November 22, 2005, 01:48 PM   #27
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An irrational man in my home, refusing to leave, possibly argumentative and hostile, displaying a disregard for his own personal safety and approaching an armed person without obvious fear of the firearm is an immediate and dangerous threat to myself and my family.
Agreed. Time to (re)act aggressivly and decisively.


Anyone notice the use of "alleged intruder" in news article. WTH?
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Old November 22, 2005, 06:34 PM   #28
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they have to use alleged till he is convicted......probaly the policy at the paper put in by some lawyer.

I would be scared for my life if I had a firearm and told a guy to get out of my house and he kept coming. Most rational people, especially a criminal usually flee when threatened with shooting. law abiding/rational citizens dont break into houses around midnight.
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Old November 22, 2005, 07:44 PM   #29
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I am from KY and I have my CCW. I am sitting here with my CCW training manual beside me now. This is what it says.

KRS 503.050 Use of physical force in self-protection states:
The use of deadly physical force by a defendant is justifible only when the defendant believes that such force is necessary to protect himself against death, serious physical injury, kidnapping, or sexual intercourse compelled by force or threat.

Yes I WILL protect myself and I may have to go to court but I agree it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

For more information, check out the link below.


http://www.kc3.com/kyccw/ccw_home.htm
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Old November 22, 2005, 08:08 PM   #30
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Court and lawyers are sooo..... expensive. Just think how many shot guns you could buy with that money. It's just not fair, is it? My wife and my other family are from Ky........the Meade and Breckenridge County areas.
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Old November 22, 2005, 08:32 PM   #31
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Kept on looking and came up with this. Hope this will help.

http://www.kc3.com/just_in_case.htm
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Old November 22, 2005, 09:21 PM   #32
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That's good info no matter where you are.
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Old November 22, 2005, 11:09 PM   #33
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Getting your KY CCW is certainly a good idea (my wife and I both have ours), but remember KY is an open-carry state, so technically it isn't necessary. Of course, that depends greatly on how much harassment you're willing to put up with (depending on where in NE KY you live...)
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Old November 22, 2005, 11:30 PM   #34
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..unless there is some tangible circumstance..there is NEVER a justification of breaking into a house
That is a heck of a logic statement. I am not sure what you mean by tangible here, but the fact that you are saying there is NEVER a justification for breaking into a house unless there is justification is silly. Obviously, "NEVER" can't be used here since there are exceptions.

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..if the homeowner indeed told the stranger to stop and he did not nor give an oral reponse to his actions..the homeowner did exactly the right thing...drill him in his tracks...if that is all there truly is to the story..that should be the end of the matter...
Of course if the story given is true, then there would be no reason to files charges. The idea that they may be filing charges would seem to indicate that there is more to this story that is being provided.

Does anyone have an actual link to the story? I know there is one link here about an incident in Lexington, but I could not determine if it was the same story brgr was describing.
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Old November 26, 2005, 07:05 PM   #35
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Kentucky is a great place for 2nd Amend. rights

Howdy!

My wife and I both have our CCW. In our profession (homesellers), we get targeted by the crazies. Every year there are lots of Realtors that are mugged, robbed, raped and murdered.

My children will also get their CCW soon.

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Old November 28, 2005, 12:25 PM   #36
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Something else to remember is that Kentucky has a CASTLE LAW....
In other words, there is no requirement there to back up, retreat or leave your home like some states (WV and NJ).
If you beleive your life is endangered you have the legal right to fight back including lethal force.
So even if the home intruder was a drunken Andy Griffith , I really doubt the home owner will go to trial.
In WV, a cousin of mine got his ass shot off by a homeowner he was trying to rob. The homeowner gave him first aid and called 911. When my scumbag cousin woke up in the hospital he hired an attorney to sue.
That doesn't generally happen in states with Castle Laws.....
Which is why we are trying to get one in WV now....

The only way the homeowner would be in real trouble (in my experience) would be if he lied to the police, tampered with evidence or was up to some form of chicanery. If his story is straight up true, he has little to worry about, except the bereived moron's family decides to file a civil suit or something...
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Old November 29, 2005, 06:31 PM   #37
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no civil suit yet

the family hasn't filed a civil suit yet as far as I know, But the intruders brother has been arrested from what I have heard, he went to the homeowners house and threatened him. This is something I heard but since a small community I'm sure that it is probably true. The story was in the local paper here The Daily Independent in Ashland, Ky
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Old November 30, 2005, 05:40 AM   #38
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But the intruders brother has been arrested from what I have heard, he went to the homeowners house and threatened him.

That's right...HOW DARE someone in fear of their life and the lives of their family, in their own home, defend him/herself?

Why the nerve!


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Old December 1, 2005, 02:09 AM   #39
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Hmm "...he went to the homeowners house and threatened him." Lucky he wasn't shot!
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Old December 1, 2005, 03:11 AM   #40
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Like the others have said, there's not enough info here for anyone to make a determination. After being in law enforcement for several years, I can tell you that what you hear from the media is usually just the tip of the iceberg. You also have to remember, anytime there is a homicide, whether it is a justifiable homicide or not, the case has to be presented to the grand jury to rule on whether it should go to prosecution or not. This is for police officers as well. If a police officer has to kill someone in the line of duty, even if theres a clear video tape from a traffic stop of an officer shooting someone that was running at him firing with a gun, the case has to go before the grand jury for a ruling. I would imagine this is what the media was trying to get too, but like I said, there's limited info here.
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Old December 1, 2005, 11:00 AM   #41
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Florida also has the "Castle Law" which eliminates the need to run until you can't run anymore. The law as I understand it is if someone forcibly enters your home then he pretty much forfeits any right he has including the right to life. If Kentucky is the same I doubt this guy has much to worry about unless he did gave a false statement or the guy was a guest and they got into an argument or something along those lines.
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