Any guys carry a Lady Smith?

LH2 · October 27, 2005, 02:58 AM

Saw the S&W M36LS today - beautiful gun! These seem to cost more than the 642/442 Centennials right now. I like the 'heft' of the steel frame, and at 20 oz I bet it'd be pretty well behaved firing +P ammo compared to an Airweight.

Seems heavy for pocket carry. But maybe worth the trade-off for shootability?

stephen426 · October 27, 2005, 03:42 AM

You think any of the guys would actually admit it? Come on... Its a LADY Smith! Duh!

Mastrogiacomo · October 27, 2005, 05:11 AM

Well, I'm a lady but I got the gun because of the heft. I had a 442 and really didn't like the recoil on that gun so I sold it. The only thing I'm looking to change on the LS though are the grips - too small even for my hands.

Blue Heeler · October 27, 2005, 06:15 AM

A 'Lady's gun?' - Come on - you've got to be joking! What full-on macho dude would ever admit to that? Not me, that's for sure. I'd rather eat worms.

Snowdog · October 27, 2005, 06:18 AM

Unless it's due to significant self-esteem issues, why would anyone try to impress others or really care what they’d think about your gun, lady, car, etc?

Personally, I really wouldn’t give much thought to “Lady Smith” being engraved on the side, as long as the handgun functioned as I would expect it to. If I had a Lady Smith and felt like carrying it one day, I have no doubt that I would.

That said, if I could buy an identical firearm sans the "Lady Smith" engraving for the same price, I most certainly would.

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Not me, that's for sure. I'd rather eat worms.

I damn near lost cola on that one.

Bulldozer · October 27, 2005, 07:31 AM

I carry a 65LS.

Brasso · October 27, 2005, 08:00 AM

I'm considering it, since S&W doesn't seem fit to sell more of them and take the "Lady Smith" off, but I would no doubt have to endure an endless stream of taunts and jokes for the rest of my life. Aren't friends nice?

Hammer It · October 27, 2005, 08:10 AM

Hello
I have a Model 631 Lady-Smith and carry it Daily. They are the only-J-frame offered by the Factory with a smoother action and slightly reduced factory installed springs added. The reason S&W did this was to allow a lighter pull for the Ladies smaller hand. They come with 2 pairs of grips, at least mine did. The original rosewoods were too small so I replaced them with the compact factory boot grips.I don't care that it says Lady-Smith and I am sure my assailant would care even less if the situation provoked it.

This is one of the smoothest actioned-J-frames I own, and it is a great shooter as well. Regards, Hammer it.

tlm225 · October 27, 2005, 09:10 AM

I don't have it yet but I put a model 60LS on layaway last month. Got it because I wanted a J frame .38 w/3 inch barrel and I got a good deal on it. Yeah I'll carry it when I'm fishing or woods roaming. No I'm not concerned about any "Ladysmith" remarks. I doubt that the marking will slow the bullet down any.

Hammer It · October 27, 2005, 09:14 AM

QUOTE/I doubt that the marking will slow the bullet down any./QUOTE/

That's right.. and any MALE that would feel inferior for carrying one is NOT too sure about them selfs..

Hammer It.

molonlabe · October 27, 2005, 10:13 AM

Maybe, Who wants to know?

Edward429451 · October 27, 2005, 10:33 AM

I don't but who cares what it says on the side?

Tsk tsk, what would freud think? If he thought that a gun is a subsitute for a...but it says ladysmith...could that topple his little tower?

Any of you guys feeling inadequete with your ladysmiths can send them to me. My ego can handle it.

**Glenn E. Meyer** · October 27, 2005, 10:47 AM

Many folks like the SW 3913 LS. I had a SW 317 LS has it had a full hammer spur. Nice feature.

I guess not carrying an LS gun because of the LS is a projective psychological test. One can protest toooooo much.

LH2 · October 27, 2005, 11:30 AM

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They are the only-J-frame offered by the Factory with a smoother action and slightly reduced factory installed springs added

I was wondering about that. Is this true on all LS models? The M36 I handled had a lighter pull than the other J frames I've checked out, which is a good thing.

I don't mind the Lady Smith engraving, no biggie. I like it for the 4 oz of extra heft over the Airweight models for firing +P ammo, but I may regret the weight for pocket carry...

The main problem with the gun is I was looking for a shrouded or concealed hammer and this one has neither. is it a big deal for a gunsmith to bob the hammer?

Avizpls · October 27, 2005, 11:48 AM

I REALLY like the auto-loader Lady. For on thing, The color of it is very very nice.

Hammer It · October 27, 2005, 12:08 PM

Hello LH2
As far as I know all Lady Smiths are smoother and have a lighter trigger pull. The Hammer bobing is a small price to pay if you want that option. I carry mine in a pancake holster, so the hammer does not interfere. I like both options being double or slow firing single action witha good positive draw back on the Hammer. Regards, Hammer It.

molonlabe · October 27, 2005, 12:09 PM

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Tsk tsk, what would freud think? If he thought that a gun is a subsitute for a...but it says ladysmith...could that topple his little tower?

News flash.
Freud’s comments were not directed at gun ownership. Insofar as Freud addressed the matter at all, he seems to have equated fear and loathing of guns to sexual immaturity and neuroticism.

Sigmund Freud & D.E Oppenheim, Dreams and Folklore 33 (1958)

gb_in_ga · October 27, 2005, 01:00 PM

I've never even considered one (of the LS J frames), just because of the grip size. Personally, I could care less what was printed on the side. The lighter trigger/springs sounds interesting, though.

I guess that it is the difference between changing out the grips for something less tiny, or doing a trigger job.

Oh, and if the trigger is lighter, I will certainly suggest this to my wife, who has grip strength problems (rheumatoid arthritis) -- a lighter trigger would be desireable to her. I know that she wouldn't have problems with something in the 20 oz range, because the .22 that she likes (my 422) weighs in at 23 oz, and she doesn't have a problem with the weight of my Bersa at 23 oz -- she just can't rack the slide.

baby74879 · October 27, 2005, 01:22 PM

Hammer It---Sir, your have a beauty.

After looking at a few, the price was a bit much. Soooo- I decided on the Smith/Wesson Model #60 Stainless .357/38 cal. [Shoot basicaly the .38]. Would much rather the Lady Smith, but priced over $5 bills, had to back down.

baby74879

LH2 · October 27, 2005, 03:33 PM

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The only thing I'm looking to change on the LS though are the grips - too small even for my hands

Are the wood grips extra small? Makes sense I guess. I didn't really notice but looking at photos I guess they are smaller than the rubber grips on the 642.

I just thought it was nice being a 20 oz steel gun for shooting +P ammo, which everybody says is really harsh with the Airweights.

Alaskanmonte · October 27, 2005, 04:45 PM

I would carry the LadySmith without any second thoughts. If the gun shoots accurately and is reliable, it does not matter what it says on the side of the gun. If I had to use it in self-defense, I don't think the punk trying to kill me would care what it said on the side either.

**Marko Kloos** · October 27, 2005, 04:55 PM

The 65LS is one of the baddest carry sixguns ever made, and the 3913LS is just about my favorite S&W autoloader. I'd carry either in a heartbeat, Ladysmith or no. I highly doubt that the bad guy is going to laugh at the writing on your gun. Besides, I think the guys with the masculinity issues are really the ones who wouldn't carry a gun just because it says "Lady" on the side.

LH2 · October 27, 2005, 05:24 PM

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The 65LS is one of the baddest carry sixguns ever made

You guys think it's too heavy for pocket carry at 20 oz? The Airweights are 15 oz (but less fun to shoot).

Also, I was kinda looking at centennials since I'd probably do some pocket carry, but the 65LS has a hammer. Is it a piece of cake for a 'smith to bob the hammer so it won't be as snag-prone, yet leave it available to cock for SA fire if desired?

However, if you're reaching into a pocket holster for your gun, seems like it could be second nature to just put your thumb near the hammer to prevent a snag.

I figure if the stock rosewood grips get to feeling too small, I can always go with some bigger rubber or wood grips.

stephen426 · October 27, 2005, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Markos Kloos

I think the guys with the masculinity issues are really the ones who wouldn't carry a gun just because it says "Lady" on the side.

I have no issues with my masculinity. I just though it was funny. Sorry if you don't have a sense of humor!

Now talking about your security in your masculinity, would you carry a hot pink gun if it was very inexpensive, very light, had great ammo capacity, was very accurate, packed a good punch, and highly concealable? I'll stick with my ugly black plastic gun thank you very much.

Hammer It · October 28, 2005, 07:59 AM

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Now talking about your security in your masculinity, would you carry a hot pink gun if it was very inexpensive, very light, had great ammo capacity, was very accurate, packed a good punch, and highly concealable?

Hello
I sure would.. At 6'-4"-250 Pounds I am NOT insecure & NEVER have been. Do you really think and assailant is going to be alarmed at the Look of a gun pointed at them? or question if you are a Marty Macho Type?I dont CARE what color, or what is scribed in a sideplate, if it shoot's well, and is priced right, then that is what I buy.. HammerIt.

October 27, 2005, 02:58 AM	#1
LH2 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2005 Location: Arizona Posts: 635	Any guys carry a Lady Smith? Saw the S&W M36LS today - beautiful gun! These seem to cost more than the 642/442 Centennials right now. I like the 'heft' of the steel frame, and at 20 oz I bet it'd be pretty well behaved firing +P ammo compared to an Airweight. Seems heavy for pocket carry. But maybe worth the trade-off for shootability?

October 27, 2005, 03:42 AM	#2
stephen426 Senior Member Join Date: March 11, 2005 Posts: 2,770	You think any of the guys would actually admit it? Come on... Its a LADY Smith! Duh! __________________ The ATF should be a convenience store instead of a government agency!

October 27, 2005, 08:00 AM	#7
Brasso Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 1999 Location: AL Posts: 470	I'm considering it, since S&W doesn't seem fit to sell more of them and take the "Lady Smith" off, but I would no doubt have to endure an endless stream of taunts and jokes for the rest of my life. Aren't friends nice? __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕʹ ICQ# 214858548

October 27, 2005, 08:10 AM	#8
Hammer It Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2004 Location: The Great Smoky Mountain Range Posts: 1,329	Yup, I Got one & Love it.. Hello I have a Model 631 Lady-Smith and carry it Daily. They are the only-J-frame offered by the Factory with a smoother action and slightly reduced factory installed springs added. The reason S&W did this was to allow a lighter pull for the Ladies smaller hand. They come with 2 pairs of grips, at least mine did. The original rosewoods were too small so I replaced them with the compact factory boot grips.I don't care that it says Lady-Smith and I am sure my assailant would care even less if the situation provoked it. This is one of the smoothest actioned-J-frames I own, and it is a great shooter as well. Regards, Hammer it.

October 27, 2005, 09:10 AM	#9
tlm225 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 651	I don't have it yet but I put a model 60LS on layaway last month. Got it because I wanted a J frame .38 w/3 inch barrel and I got a good deal on it. Yeah I'll carry it when I'm fishing or woods roaming. No I'm not concerned about any "Ladysmith" remarks. I doubt that the marking will slow the bullet down any. __________________ All that is neccessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

October 27, 2005, 05:11 AM	#3
Mastrogiacomo Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 893	Well, I'm a lady but I got the gun because of the heft. I had a 442 and really didn't like the recoil on that gun so I sold it. The only thing I'm looking to change on the LS though are the grips - too small even for my hands.

October 27, 2005, 06:15 AM	#4
Blue Heeler Junior member Join Date: October 5, 1999 Location: Queensland Posts: 1,043	A 'Lady's gun?' - Come on - you've got to be joking! What full-on macho dude would ever admit to that? Not me, that's for sure. I'd rather eat worms.

October 27, 2005, 07:31 AM	#6
Bulldozer Senior Member Join Date: May 30, 1999 Location: Kansas City Metro Posts: 415	I carry a 65LS. __________________ There are three things in this life that make me smile ear to ear -- Mastiffs, Magnums, and Merlots. Don't try to take any of them from me.

October 27, 2005, 09:14 AM	#10
Hammer It Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2004 Location: The Great Smoky Mountain Range Posts: 1,329	QUOTE/I doubt that the marking will slow the bullet down any./QUOTE/ That's right.. and any MALE that would feel inferior for carrying one is NOT too sure about them selfs.. Hammer It.

October 27, 2005, 10:13 AM	#11
molonlabe Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2004 Location: MD Posts: 296	Maybe, Who wants to know? __________________ The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved. I Don't want you in here period...Patricia Konie NOLA 2005

October 27, 2005, 10:33 AM	#12
Edward429451 Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2000 Location: Colorado Springs, Colorado Posts: 9,457	I don't but who cares what it says on the side? Tsk tsk, what would freud think? If he thought that a gun is a subsitute for a...but it says ladysmith...could that topple his little tower? Any of you guys feeling inadequete with your ladysmiths can send them to me. My ego can handle it. __________________ "Always place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark" Lazarus Long "Understand that the enemy is not the enemy in his own eyes ;this may offer you an opportunity to make him your friend. If not, you can kill him without hate, and quickly." Lazarus Long

October 27, 2005, 10:47 AM	#13
Glenn E. Meyer Staff Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 13,159	Many folks like the SW 3913 LS. I had a SW 317 LS has it had a full hammer spur. Nice feature. I guess not carrying an LS gun because of the LS is a projective psychological test. One can protest toooooo much. __________________ NRA, TSRA, IDPA, NTI, Polite Soc. http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...05_Feature.htm Being an Academic Shooter http://www.teddytactical.com/archive...11_Feature.htm Being an Active Shooter

October 27, 2005, 11:48 AM	#15
Avizpls Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2004 Posts: 774	I REALLY like the auto-loader Lady. For on thing, The color of it is very very nice.

October 27, 2005, 12:08 PM	#16
Hammer It Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2004 Location: The Great Smoky Mountain Range Posts: 1,329	Lady-Smith Hello LH2 As far as I know all Lady Smiths are smoother and have a lighter trigger pull. The Hammer bobing is a small price to pay if you want that option. I carry mine in a pancake holster, so the hammer does not interfere. I like both options being double or slow firing single action witha good positive draw back on the Hammer. Regards, Hammer It.

October 27, 2005, 01:00 PM	#18
gb_in_ga Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2005 Location: Wylie, Tx Posts: 2,979	I've never even considered one (of the LS J frames), just because of the grip size. Personally, I could care less what was printed on the side. The lighter trigger/springs sounds interesting, though. I guess that it is the difference between changing out the grips for something less tiny, or doing a trigger job. Oh, and if the trigger is lighter, I will certainly suggest this to my wife, who has grip strength problems (rheumatoid arthritis) -- a lighter trigger would be desireable to her. I know that she wouldn't have problems with something in the 20 oz range, because the .22 that she likes (my 422) weighs in at 23 oz, and she doesn't have a problem with the weight of my Bersa at 23 oz -- she just can't rack the slide. __________________ COME AND TAKE IT http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/batgon.htm Formerly lived in Ga, but now I'm back in Tx!

October 27, 2005, 01:22 PM	#19
baby74879 Member Join Date: May 25, 2005 Location: Citrus Springs. Florida Posts: 15	Beauty--- Hammer It---Sir, your have a beauty. After looking at a few, the price was a bit much. Soooo- I decided on the Smith/Wesson Model #60 Stainless .357/38 cal. [Shoot basicaly the .38]. Would much rather the Lady Smith, but priced over $5 bills, had to back down. baby74879

October 27, 2005, 04:45 PM	#21
Alaskanmonte Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 403	I would carry the LadySmith without any second thoughts. If the gun shoots accurately and is reliable, it does not matter what it says on the side of the gun. If I had to use it in self-defense, I don't think the punk trying to kill me would care what it said on the side either.

October 27, 2005, 04:55 PM	#22
Marko Kloos Staff Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,519	The 65LS is one of the baddest carry sixguns ever made, and the 3913LS is just about my favorite S&W autoloader. I'd carry either in a heartbeat, Ladysmith or no. I highly doubt that the bad guy is going to laugh at the writing on your gun. Besides, I think the guys with the masculinity issues are really the ones who wouldn't carry a gun just because it says "Lady" on the side. __________________ "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." --A.E. Van Vogt, The Weapon Shops of Isher the munchkin wrangler.