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Old September 27, 2005, 09:40 AM   #1
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H&R 223 or 243 Ultra Varmint

How accurate are the H & R guns? I am trying to decide between the bull barreled .243 or .223. Obviously, .223 is cheaper to just shoot, but the .243 is more versatile. Mostly be used for woodchucks and coyotes. What do you think. any one have one and an accuracy report?
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Old September 27, 2005, 11:41 AM   #2
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I don't know anything about that particular rifle, but I rather strongly believe that a .243 would be better for a clean kill on coyotes, particularly out beyond 100 to 150 yards. That's my experience, anyway.

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Old September 27, 2005, 12:01 PM   #3
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Here's a fresh accuracy report for you. I was at the range with my .223 NEF Ultra Varmit (bull barrel) yeaterday, trying a new load. Actually, an old load in a new type of brass. Anyway...

Conditions were not ideal at the range. There was a cold front moving through, and wind was shifty, variable 5-15 mph, and made a full 180 swing during the range session. With all the excuses out of the way...

Best 2 groups of the session were:

-3 shot group measuring .65" at 100 yards

-5 shot group measuring .7 (pic)

Wind must've been consistent during those groups.
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Old September 27, 2005, 12:39 PM   #4
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Aesome with the .223....anyone have any results with a .243? How is .243 accuracy as a calibre?
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Old September 27, 2005, 01:11 PM   #5
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The .243 is a very accurate round. It has an excellent trajectory -- very flat shooting.

I've used it to kill several does.
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Old September 27, 2005, 01:44 PM   #6
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Have you considered the king of the varmint rifles; 22-250? If you are not a reloader, there are economical varmint rounds available for the 250 in 40 round packs in a high velocity HP...think about it?
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Old September 27, 2005, 02:40 PM   #7
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I am looking at .223 and .243 because it ti s the only ones offered in the laminate stocked Ultra Varmint.
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Old September 27, 2005, 04:37 PM   #8
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I bought a Sako Forester carbine in 1970. I guess I've put around a thousand rounds through it, roughly. Back when my eyes were better I could get well inside one MOA for five-shot groups. I used the Hornady 70-grain Spire Point and the 85-grain Sierra HPBT.

I've gotten lazy and stay with the 85 for everything. I've killed some twenty deer with that load, and all were one-shot kills, mostly DRT. It will definitely wreck a coyote or jackrabbit.

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Old September 27, 2005, 05:00 PM   #9
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Anyone have any specific experience with the accuracy of the .243 ultar varmint...It seems that the .223's are very accurate.
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