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Old March 19, 2005, 01:33 PM   #1
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best 9mm plicking and hunting side arm

I know this is going to sound stupid, but I want buy a 9mm for shooting becuase it is so cheap and to carry duck hunting as a backup. I know sounds strange but we own several hundrend acres of duck hunting backwoods. I what a on gun do it all type situation. I do not think I would ever have to use it, but in case a hog or other animal popped out I want to be armed. Please know body tell me to buy a large caliber, I want the 9mm chances are it will do more target then anything else.

Here is what I like so far ruger p-95, glock 19, and bersa thunder 9

I need the most accurate and most reliable and I realize that the glock it the highest and the others can be had for abut 200 $$ less.

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Old March 19, 2005, 02:01 PM   #2
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1) Some states (such as PA) does not allow you to carry a semi-auton handgun while hunting. Does yours?

2) A 9mm, while a fine cartridge is not a do-it-all by any means. Hogs will laugh at you.

3) Get a bigger caliber if you are going to carry it while hunting. Some states required a certain caliber.
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Old March 19, 2005, 02:14 PM   #3
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of those 3, I would go with the Glock
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Old March 19, 2005, 02:37 PM   #4
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of the 3 you mentioned, i would definately pick the glock. you also may want to consider the springfield xd 9, its definately better than a ruger or bersa too and you can find one cheaper than the glock.
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Old March 19, 2005, 02:41 PM   #5
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The only bad thing about the Glock19 is the price. Even a used one will run around $350.00 in very good condition. If you look in the right place you can find the Ruger P95 can be had brand new for $300.00 and on sale for $250.00! The Ruger P95 is just as good if not alittle better than the Glock19.
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Old March 19, 2005, 02:44 PM   #6
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Actually the XD and P95 are on par with one another. It would be neat to have a shootout between the two.
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Old March 19, 2005, 02:58 PM   #7
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why would you say ruger p95 is better than the glock, just curious it is much cheaper.
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Old March 19, 2005, 03:28 PM   #8
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The Rugers are good enough guns, but they don't fit may hand at all. I have pretty well decided that all my 9mm needs can be well-met by an XD-9 or Beretta 92 Centurion- the latter of which can be had a bargain prices if you search the auction sites.
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Old March 19, 2005, 03:41 PM   #9
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Rugers can handle +P pressures like Glock, but Rugers can handle them indefinately. Just because something cost more doesn't always mean it's better.
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Old March 19, 2005, 05:54 PM   #10
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How accurate or the rugers straight out the box compared to others. Ruger is looking better.
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Old March 19, 2005, 05:57 PM   #11
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Something really stainless considering how much moisture it'll see.

Considered a revolver?
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Old March 19, 2005, 06:03 PM   #12
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I have thought about a revolver maybe a small 357 would be cheaper and better for my purpose any thoughts
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Old March 19, 2005, 06:54 PM   #13
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Glock 19 and Federal EMFJ

I have two Glock 19s and carry 24/7. Wouldn't want anything else. For ammo go with the Federal EMFJ-Bullet. Check out my own test at: http://www.raoulwagner.com/9mm.htm

If your mind isn't totally set yet: The german hunting journal I read recommends .357 with at least 4" barre length for stopping hurt or angry boar. And even then the ammo has to be right. If you understand german, check it out: http://www.djz.de/naechsteseite/naec...ite_25732.html

Don't get me wrong: I trust the Glock 19s 9x19mm with my life. But if it's for one shot a .357 Mag might be better. Still, if you need more than one shot, I'd rather fire 16 9x19mm quickly from a semiautomatic Glock than 6 .357 Mag. slow form a revolver with a hard double-action triger pull. That's why I carry Glocks anyway...

Mhm, your possible target won't shoot back. Go for a light 4" Revolver in .357 Mag. A shorter barrel than 4" will take away the advantage.
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Old March 19, 2005, 07:00 PM   #14
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ruger P89

The Ruger P89 has never jammed, failed to fire, or let me down otherwise. I can't say enought about this gun. My friend is looking for something for home defense, and I was recommending a 357 revolver, but after about 500rnds or so, it's been more reliable than my revolver!
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Old March 19, 2005, 08:02 PM   #15
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Go for the ruger, definatly the better of the guns you listed, and for the price, your set.

A revolver though, might be your best bet. Even an .38 special is good

In WA, anything over .24 cal is usable for hunting.
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Old March 19, 2005, 08:30 PM   #16
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Look into a Sig, they are durable guns, smooth fast and accurate.
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Old March 19, 2005, 08:45 PM   #17
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The problem with Sigs is that not everyone can afford them.
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Old March 19, 2005, 09:19 PM   #18
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http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/c...az-c15p97s.asp

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Old March 19, 2005, 09:31 PM   #19
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I haven't read any good reports on it yet.
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Old March 19, 2005, 09:47 PM   #20
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Look into the Star BM ... nice little 9MM and you can pick them up quite inexpensively.

Check out this link for more info.
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Old March 19, 2005, 10:47 PM   #21
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I prefer sigs, I carry a glock on duty, a sig the rest of the time. When I shoot,
I shoot lots of rounds. Sigs have never had a problem, very accurate out of box. seen two glocks in last year have problems, went full auto, not a good thing. still comes down to what feels good though. also consider if you want a d/a or d/a s/a trigger.
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Old March 20, 2005, 12:30 AM   #22
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4" Smith or Ruger revolver in .357 magnum would be my choice. Revolvers are more reliable, the .357 ammo is more potent and the price is right in line with what you're thinking. Stainless handles the woods wetlands situation pretty well too as long as you don't neglect it.
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Old March 20, 2005, 12:52 AM   #23
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Wouldnt a 9mm go into a pigs skull? And if so, wouldn't that kill'em?
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Old March 20, 2005, 08:01 AM   #24
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If subcompact, the 9x19mm beats the .357 Mag (2,5" barrel)

We have figured out the following in another thread. I thought, some might be interested (and wishing to comment):

In the article I read that the fastest load out of a 2,5" snub .357 Magnum was a 125grain bullet which reached 1243 ft/sec (378m/s).

An article by the renowned German Hunting Journal ("Deutsche Jagt Zeitung", http://www.djz.de/naechsteseite/naec...ite_26280.html) showed a test of the Federal EMFJ 9x19mm bullet shot from the subcompact Glock 26. It's a 124 grainer and reached 1.250 ft/sec (381m/s).

That's a clear result to me:
1. Bullet diameter and weight are the same and
2. subcompact 9x19mm semiauto pistols outperform short barreled .357 Mag. revolvers.


Not to mention that the subcompact Glock 26 holds 12 bullets while the revolvers only hold 5 to 6. The disadvantage of the stronger recoil and the harder trigger pull with the revolver also advocate the subcompact semiauto. If you can carry a 4" revolver, things might be a little different, though.
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Old March 20, 2005, 08:03 AM   #25
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Wouldnt a 9mm go into a pigs skull? And if so, wouldn't that kill'em?
would you surely hit the pig's skull if it attacked you?

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seen two glocks in last year have problems, went full auto, not a good thing
That's hard to believe. Did you report that to Glock? My gunsmith told me that he can't even deliberately make Glock's semiautos go full-auto.
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