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Old March 15, 2005, 06:56 PM   #1
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Pistol reloaders Help with 44 mag load

I'm in the process as you read this, reloading my first 44 mag loads. I'm using 6.0g of Unique powder as per my manual. I dumped my first load of powder and there is only about 25% of the case filled with powder. Is this right? I'm very surprised at the small amount of powder.
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Old March 15, 2005, 07:20 PM   #2
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You're not going to get a true .44 mag load with Unique. For full power loads take a look at W296, H110 or 2400. If you want something a little lighter try Blue Dot.
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Old March 15, 2005, 07:22 PM   #3
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Is the amount of powder in the case sound right. I'm using Unique right now.
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Old March 15, 2005, 07:24 PM   #4
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Sounds right for Unique.
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Old March 15, 2005, 07:44 PM   #5
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Last question

I'm reloading a double action pistol. Do I have to crimp. I'd prefer not if it's not required.
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Old March 15, 2005, 08:50 PM   #6
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.44 mag loads

With light loads, you may get by, but once you start to get close to factory loads recoil may unseat the bullets and jam the cylinder.
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Old March 15, 2005, 09:26 PM   #7
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I went ahead and crimped now it's off to the range I go.
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Old March 16, 2005, 06:33 PM   #8
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I use 10 grains of Unique in my 44 Magnums cast bullet loads. Seem like magnum performance to me.
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Old March 16, 2005, 06:48 PM   #9
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In my experiance with loading 44 mags, Unique works well up to mediumish loads only. If you want to go further than medium loads, try 2400 which I load from light up to OMG. I love the consistent performance of 2400. I have loaded H110 & WW296 also but came back to 2400 as a staple.

I hear your concern about the volume of Unique. It would be fairly easy to accidently doublecharge one and get into trouble with it. Not so with 2400, its volume would overflow a case in a medium load which was doublecharged. Or does at least for me and my loads.
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Old March 16, 2005, 07:06 PM   #10
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Unique

In old military rifles where you want low pressure but a consistent charge, Unique is a favority. Sure with a small powder charge you can double charge but, well, you do need to be paying attention. The nice thing about Unique is that it is consistent even in small doses. I buy it by the crate.
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Old March 16, 2005, 07:51 PM   #11
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Favorite 44 Mag. load!!!

Boot your weight of Unique up to 8.5 gr and and cast bullet of 240 - 250 gr. and you'll have a nice moderate 44 Mag load, at about 1000 fps. Shoots well in about any 44 that I have tried. Cheaper to shoot than any Jacketed bullet load and easy on both the gun and the shooter.
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Old March 16, 2005, 08:00 PM   #12
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Thanks for the info guys. I guess I loaded it right because the pistol went boom when i pulled the trigger. I'm setting up new loads tonight to try to improve my accuracy.
My first loads were very consistant. I consistantly hit the target, I was consistantly everywhere.
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Old March 16, 2005, 09:46 PM   #13
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Bill, there are quite a few pistol cartridges with a lot more powder capacity than you are likely to use. Some are old blackpowder cartridges in smokeless loadings, and others are versions of older cartridges that were lengthened to prevent chambering in older guns.
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Old March 18, 2005, 08:27 PM   #14
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Klw,

10.0 of Unique might "seem" magnumish when you fire it, but shoota few over a chronograph, and you will find that it isn't.

"Feel" really doesn'y mane much. You start to really learn about reloading when you start using a chronograph.

I know that I sure got a lot of "surprises" the first timke I used one! It was an old Oehler model 10, the first chronograph available to reloaders. The printet paper screens were a real PITA, but it sure taught me a lot about reloading.
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Old March 18, 2005, 08:36 PM   #15
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chronographs

Decades ago (I'm getting old) I played with quite a few chronographs. Actually wrote a couple reviews of them way back when. I never found them to be all that useful, however, so I got rid of the last one years ago. They are certainly interesting but I'm not at all sure that they are useful.

Then too with the trend of putting the electronics downrange where you can shot it I became even less interested.

I suppose I could buy an Oehler but he is probably still very angry with me. He patented the skyscreen, the plastic above his detectors which helps considerably with glair. He was using that patent to drive his competitors out of the market. Unfortunately, however, he didn't invest it. One of the pictures I had from an article where the camera put a date stamp on the negative showed that that was in common use before Oehler's patent. He wasn't too happy about that.
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Old March 18, 2005, 09:27 PM   #16
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Chronograph

I have been using a chrono for 2 years now, it is a whole new world of facts , not B.S., and is useful in determining when a load is efficient and if it is on the verge of diminishing returns , which usually means you are getting over the safe pressure with that powder.
Really very helpful.
My next step is a pressure sensor setup.

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Old March 19, 2005, 12:01 AM   #17
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Pressure Sensor

I stopped paying any attention to chronographs a very long time ago. I know even less about current pressure sensing equipment. Can you buy that these days and if so from whom?
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