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Old March 13, 2005, 12:07 AM   #1
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the end to the man hunt of Brian Nichols

Anyone that wants to listen to the Gwinnett county police audio replay in regards to the capture of Brian Nichols in Gwinnett County by Gwinnett county police please log on to the Gwinnett county police page.
WWW.scangwinnett.com. Ifs a free membership but you must join to be able to listen. They will have the link up and running very shortly

They will have all of it covered. You can hear them setting up snipers and police and they evacuate the complex and then they say 10-95 subject in custody. Then the police say he confirms his name as Brian Nichols.


all inks are up and running and working fine now.

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Old March 13, 2005, 12:09 AM   #2
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I hope the jurors who hung the jury a couple weeks ago
think about this every day of their lives.

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Old March 13, 2005, 07:20 AM   #3
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4 dead because of stupid security proceedures !! Fox News interviewed a lawyer and former cop who had been in the building at the time.A year ago he wrote a report about the security concluding that unless proceedures were changed there would be a disaster ! His report was ignored !!!
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Old March 13, 2005, 09:35 AM   #4
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Atlanta Courtroom

A lot seems to have changed in Law Enforcement since I left 20 years ago. The account on Yahoo said the law states no handcuffs entering court so it won't influence the jury. If that's the case who do we thank? ACLU? Liberal Judges? Bleeding Hearts? Can't we all just get along!
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Old March 13, 2005, 10:03 AM   #5
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The sad part is that they took him alive. More $ down the drain. He will live to see his birthday for the next 10-15 years (or more) :barf:
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Old March 13, 2005, 12:01 PM   #6
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He wont be alive for another 5 years, not in georgia they fry them quick and fast. He put the most to death each year, more than any other state.

my opinions of this and why he did what he did.
When this loser opened the door and waived a white towel, I would of shot through the door at the point i think. When this loser came out he unarmed and arms up over his head and hands were empty. This loser followed every command given to him from about 30 swat officers with their 223s guns pointed at him.
Trust me when I say one false mover and it would have been lights out, if they could of they would of, with all the news and other things around they would have hun a cop or the killing. Look at the bitching about his civil rights
being violated because he does not have an attorney with him during questioning.
Even if he knew she was gone about the time she got away or with in 2 minuets of that Gwinnett Police was on scene in 2 minuets with one officer and had sever uniform officers 10-60, Then with in under 5 minuets 30 uniform cars and every news and 2 police helicopters and 5 news helicopter was over it, so any black and ever bald male was stopped and searched. This loser knew he had no place to go and every inch was covered and blocked, I wish he killed himself.
Why he choose to come to gwinnett i don't know, some say he ran out of gas and and they found the car off hiway exit so that might be true. Then he walked to a gas station and car jacked her at gun point and said don't scream get in and drive, I have no idea why she tock him to her home, I have no idea what I would of done if i was her. I know what I would of done if that was me, no man i an not getting in the car with you, take the keys and car and money, as i went for my wallet we would had a shoot at at the QT.
Hell I know all QT and gas stations and pump areas are on vidio and people are insides, if he shot me it would of been on video and i know the people inside would of hear it and pushed an alarm botton.
I hope he did not rape her or do somthig worse to her then what he did. I know i would never of gone home if i know iw as all alone.
Now if this loser found out she was gone with in 5 miuets of her getting out, once he looked outside he knew it was over, if he woke up before swat moved in and the other uniformed officers he had to seen about 5 patrol units that blocked the exit that was visible from the window. This pictilar unit was facing the wood and had only one exit and was in a U shape.The had another 20 cars behind the unit closing off the u.
I don’t know if I can get away with taking pictures of the unit or getting near it to show a ground shot of what he was able to see. For all I know she or someone she knows might have a gun in her apartment and other tenets might not like having a strange person close to the apartment for a little while, I am not black but I like my blood in my body.
She might not be anyplace near that apartment after her ordeal. I will see if I feel save getting close or walking around. I get a bullet proof vest I can put on.
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Old March 13, 2005, 12:16 PM   #7
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If he is convicted (i wonder if he will be ) I got rope if they need it. Though I think killing is too good for him. Solitary confinement for life would be a much better punishment.
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Old March 13, 2005, 06:04 PM   #8
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Sorry folks. He is in federal custody. The locals only have him for interviews. The federal officer murder means he gets to go to Marion. When the federal sentence is done, the state can have whatever is left. I doubt the death penalty will be involved.
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Old March 13, 2005, 06:17 PM   #9
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Sir William you are nuts if you think he’s not going to be fried.

This is Georgia, A state that puts people to death with out any problems. Georgia puts the most inmates to death each year.

I bet you and any other one the death penalty will be carried out quickly.

Last you have to put him federal custody because the sheriff department runs all the jails in Georgia, he would be dead if he went to any state jail.
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Old March 14, 2005, 01:27 AM   #10
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He is charged with a federal crime. Being in illegal posession of a firearm while under indictment. The state will charge him at an arraignent Monday. The murder of a federal agent takes priority. The state will have their day. I do doubt the death penalty will be imposed.
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Old March 14, 2005, 09:14 AM   #11
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I have to agree with Sir William. The Feds are going to have first crack at this guy. Whatever happens to this guy it's going to be a long beruracratic nightmare. He won't see the needle or the chair anytime soon !! Chances are this guy will probally take his own life, justice will never be served IMO.
I really think the only reason this guy surrendered is because his last victim convinced him that how precious life is and no one else should die. I do not believe that 30 SWAT guys with riffles had as much influence over him as did his last victim that he held hostage...her story is in the Atlanta Journal and Constitution.
As far as the state goes I think they REALLY should focus on dammage control. I feel that Fulton county's lack of security measures shares EQUAL blame for all of the tragedies that took place this weekend. If any good comes out of this it will be that ALL jurisdictions learn from the incompetency of local,county and state errors in regards to the handling of this matter.
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Old March 14, 2005, 04:12 PM   #12
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Feds Drop Charge Against Nichols


Federal charges against courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols have been dropped while a mistrial has been declared in his rape case.

Three murder warrants have been issued, however, against Nichols, who is being held at a federal penitentiary.

Nichols, who is suspected in the shooting deaths of three people at the Fulton County courthouse Friday, had been expected at the federal courthouse in Atlanta Monday morning.

Federal authorities said they decided to drop their case against Nichols, for now, to clear the way for Fulton County authorities to take the lead in the case against him.

By dropping the charge -- possession of a firearm by a person under indictment for a felony -- without prejudice, the charge can be revived later. Nichols had been on trial for rape and other charges when he grabbed a deputy's weapon Friday morning and started a deadly rampage, authorities said.

"This action allowed Nichols to be returned to the custody of Fulton County, Georgia authorities from the custody of the United States Marshal Service," announced U.S. Attorney David Nahmias.

"This office will continue to confer with the Fulton County District Attorney's Office to determine what federal and state charges should be brought against Nichols and when such charges should be filed."

Nichols surrendered peacefully Saturday after holding a 26-year-old woman hostage inside her Gwinnett County apartment.

Nichols is suspected in the shooting deaths of Judge Rowland Barnes, court reporter Julie Brandau, Sheriff's deputy Hoyt Teasley, and U.S. Customs Agent David Wilhelm.

Nichols had been taken to the courthouse Friday morning for his second rape trial. The first ended in a mistrial due to a hung jury.

On Monday, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Stephanie Manis granted a defense motion and declared a mistrial in the second case against Nichols. Manis took over the case from her slain colleague, Rowland Barnes.
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Old March 14, 2005, 09:56 PM   #13
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Good call bci, it appears that I could not have been more wrong. I wonder how long this guy will be on death row.
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Old March 14, 2005, 10:21 PM   #14
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Now THAT is interesting! I wonder how much money is going to be spent on this case? There will be a motion for a change of venue. I imagine the jury will be difficult to pick and sequestered when agreed upon. A state appointed defense attorney, a state prosecution, care and feeding of the defendant and the jury, security measures, crowd and media control, transportation costs and Amnesty International or other watchdog groups to deal with. The taxpayers lose again. I am still surprised that the federal authorities gave him up. Odd.
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Old March 14, 2005, 11:48 PM   #15
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They have nothing ans had nothing.

They are mad because a agent was killed. That is bad but you can't charge him with murder of a federal agent if he did not know it.

The state will try him and fry him fast. With in 5 years and be in the millions.
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Old March 15, 2005, 09:29 AM   #16
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Seems to me, a good attorney.................. Lets see here, the state is going to prosecute and the state is going to defend...... hmmmm conflict of intrest here no?

I could take a l o n g t i m e killing this one.
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Old March 15, 2005, 10:35 AM   #17
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Name NICHOLS, BRIAN
Booking Number 0509994 Date Booked 03/12/2005
Race B Sex M
Height 6' 01" Weight 200
Date of Birth 12/10/1971 Arresting Agency FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
Jail Location IF-03-04-047 Bail Amount $0.00
Release Date ** IN JAIL ** Reason Released
Total Charges 11
Charge Number Charge Description Court Disposition
1 RAPE SUPERIOR COURT UNTRIED (NO BOND)
2 FALSE IMPRISONMENT SUPERIOR COURT UNTRIED (NO BOND)
3 AGG SODOMY SUPERIOR COURT UNTRIED (NO BOND)
4 BURGLARY SUPERIOR COURT UNTRIED (NO BOND)
5 AGG ASSAULT W/I RAPE MAGISTRATE NORTH UNTRIED (NO BOND)
6 POSS F/ARM COMM CRIME SUPERIOR COURT UNTRIED (NO BOND)
7 NO DRIV LIC STATE COURT MERGE SENTENCES
8 U/S DRIV W/LIC SUSP RVK STATE COURT SENTENCED
9 FAILURE OBTAIN LIC STATE COURT MERGE SENTENCES
10 U/S O REVAL DECAL STATE COURT SENTENCED
11 U/S NO INSURANCE STATE COURT TOTAL BOND

I fear for his safety and life. NOT!

LET THE BLANKET PARTIES BEGIN.
I am not a patient person but can residents of Georgia give him one. I will wait in that loooong line.

I hope The Sheriff's department kills the FSOB and saves the tax payers money.
How is this, they charge $100.00 per person that wants to though him a party and the money goes to the victims. I got my $100.00.
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Old March 15, 2005, 11:53 AM   #18
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"4 dead because of stupid security proceedures !! "

No, they are dead because a vicious criminal stole a police officer's gun and killed them with it. I got tired of statements like this when some people decided we needed to find someone in the US government who we could blame for the 9/11 attack.

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Old March 15, 2005, 12:53 PM   #19
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(CBS/AP) The suspect in a crime spree that left a judge and three others dead appeared before a magistrate judge Tuesday on a refiled rape charge, which is being used to hold him as he's investigated in a courthouse shooting rampage and the death of a federal agent as he eluded authorities.

The judge informed Brian Nichols that he was being charged, for a third time, with rape, and Assistant District Attorney Michele McCutcheon informed Cobb County Judge Frank Cox that the state will pursue four charges of murder against Nichols.

Nichols was held without bond and no future court hearings were set.

With his hands shackled at his waist and his ankles shackled together, Nichols only spoke once, when the judge asked him if he had any questions.

"Not at this time," he said.

Nineteen officers lined the walls of the cinder block room at the jail for the hearing.

Defense Attorney Chris Adams told reporters after the hearing "this is a time of grief and mourning" for the courthouse community.

Some residents are questioning how local law enforcement let Nichols elude their grasp for 26 hours in what is being called the largest manhunt in state history.

Nichols, a 6-foot-1, 200-pound former college linebacker, is accused of grabbing 51-year-old sheriff's deputy Cynthia Hall's gun in a courthouse and then fatally shooting a judge, a court reporter and a deputy.

Security cameras rolled as Nichols — who had been found in court earlier in the week with two homemade knives in his shoes — overpowered the 5-foot-tall Hall as she escorted him to his rape trial. But no one was monitoring the cameras, giving Nichols the time he needed to storm into the courtroom, reports CBS News Correspondent Jim Acosta.

Local attorney Dennis Scheib said that he has warned Fulton County for years to hire more deputies.

"I've tried cases and we're in the middle of the trial and there's no deputies in there because they are so short-handed," Scheib told CBS News.

Authorities said Nichols escaped the courthouse in a Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority train. They said he took the train north to a pricey neighborhood where he allegedly gunned down a federal agent.

"I don't understand why they didn't have the MARTA staked out," said Maryanne Fry, a neighbor of slain immigration agent David Wilhelm. "I really wish they had."

As Nichols vanished from the courthouse, investigators focused on finding the car they believed he was in. Thirteen hours later, the car was found in the same parking garage where it was carjacked minutes after the shootings.

Once authorities realized Nichols was not in the hijacked car, they admitted they had few other leads as to where Nichols was hiding. The trail had abruptly gone cold.

Nichols was being retried for rape and other charges when he escaped. That case was declared a mistrial Monday at the request of Nichols' attorney, Friedly said. Nichols' first trial was a mistrial as well.

Nichols was only apprehended after he released a woman, Ashley Smith, who he had held hostage for seven hours in her apartment. She immediately called 911 and Nichols surrendered peacefully Saturday to a SWAT team.

If it hadn't been for Smith, who gained Nichols' trust by bonding with him over discussions on family and God, there's no telling how long the rampage would have continued, reports CBS' Acosta.

Investigators' failure to properly search the parking garage where the supposed getaway car sat unnoticed for so long, and the decision not to search the commuter trains leaving the city's downtown, left some people scratching their heads.

Commuter Carla Hill said if MARTA police had been alerted someone might have spotted him. "Someone that dangerous, I would think all precautions would be taken," she said.

Hill questioned whether MARTA's numerous video surveillance cameras were working properly. "There should be some image of him because the cameras are everywhere," she said.

MARTA spokeswoman Jocelyn Baker said investigators are still reviewing surveillance videos for evidence that Nichols was on a commuter train.

Police Chief Richard Pennington said officers had no reason to order the trains to stop running because they had no reason to believe he was not in the stolen car.

The first indication that Nichols had indeed taken the train came 13 hours after the shootings.

Officers received a report of a couple assaulted near the train station at Lenox Square in north Atlanta by a man matching Nichols' description. The man had brandished a gun and demanded money or a vehicle before striking one of them in the head with the gun and fleeing.

A police report shows that Shelton Warren told investigators he was attacked in his apartment, about a half block from the home of Wilhelm, the federal agent, when he opened the door to let his girlfriend inside and discovered a man holding a gun on her. Both Warren and Iman Adan told investigators they believed it was Nichols.

Wilhelm, 40, was working on tile in his new five-bedroom house in the Lenox Square area late Friday when Nichols allegedly shot him. His body was found early Saturday. His blue pickup truck, pistol and badge had been taken.
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Old March 15, 2005, 05:35 PM   #20
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$100.00? Blanket party? Sad, truly sad.
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Old March 15, 2005, 08:26 PM   #21
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Comments have been that he 'just snapped' Now I find [O'Rielly on Fox News] that he had been found previously with gun and drugs and they decided not to prosecute on those charges !!!
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The police now know they both belonged to the same gym.

Man I hope for her that is just a big fat coincidence, if not then fry her
f---ing ass..
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Courthouse shooting suspect Brian Nichols' first trial ended when jurors could not agree on whether he was guilty of rape and assault. 11Alive Investigator Jerry Carnes obtained some of the transcripts from that trial, which included details of Nichols' own testimony.

The rape charges were brought against Nichols when a former girlfriend claimed last August that he attacked her in her Sandy Springs condominium. She told police she was bound and raped for hours.

The first trial ended in a hung jury, leading to a second trial that began about a week later.

It was during his second trial that, police say, Nichols overpowered a deputy, took her weapon, and shot to death Judge Rowland Barnes and court reporter Julie Ann Brandau. Deputy Hoyt "Keith" Teasley was shot and killed when he tried to stop Nichols outside the courtroom on March 11

Nichols, a college-educated man and former football player, once considered a career in criminal justice. He attended church and worked as a computer systems analysis. During Nichols' February rape trial, jurors, however, heard claims of a violent, brutal side.

During the first trial, a witness testified that just hours before the alleged attack, Nichols' confronted his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend. When he was threatened with arrest, Nichols allegedly responded, "They can lock me up, they can take me to jail, but eventually, I'll be out and I'll be back."

On the witness stand, Nichols admitted that he and his girlfriend had a rocky, seven-year relationship. The two had attended worship services and were baptized together at their church in a Gwinnett County industrial park.

Their relationship ended when Nichols got another woman pregnant. Nichols testified that on the night of the alleged rape, he and his ex were together, watching a movie and talked about the possibility of repairing their relationship.

"We ended up being intimate," he claimed "It was with her consent"

Later, Nichols testified, the two fought.

"As a man, I've never put my hands on a woman in a way she didn't want me to,” Nichols said. She smacked me [after they started arguing about him getting another woman pregnant], since I never put my hands on a woman in anyway that she doesn't ask me to, I was mad, and automatically, I'm ready to go."

Nichols, during his testimony, denied he had held his former girlfriend hostage, and denied he had raped and sodomized her.

"Ninety percent of the things (she) has said about that night are not true,” he testified. "I can't tell you why (she) has me sitting here facing two life sentences."

The ex-girlfriend testified that Nichols would not let go of the relationship and that he was suicidal.

"Brian had also told me that he was thinking about committing suicide, and we had gone through one evening where he pretty much called me and asked me if I would take care of his dog, and that he was going to commit suicide that night,” she said.

She told jurors that on August 19th of last year, Nichols' broke into her condominium, bound her with duct tape, and threatened her with a gun.

"He pretty much told me there were some demons inside of him that had been pretty much awakened as a result of this whole process, and that all I needed to do was to comply with him and this was part of his healing and that he would not harm me,” she testified.

Nichols' accuser claimed at one point Nichols started crying and said he couldn't believe what he was doing. The alleged victim claims she read to him from the Bible and suggested he seek help. She says at that point, Nichols became angry and said "I'm in control".

"H made the comment that even if they were to lock me up for 20 years, that he would be the model prisoner, and he would spend that 20 years trying to figure out how to come back after me,” the alleged victim testified.

After their breakup, Nichols' former girlfriend started dating a minister at the church she and Nichols' both attended.

On the witness stand, the minister testified that Nichols once said “There's a demon inside me, and knowing that the two of you are together, this demon is growing and it's getting very powerful, and I don't know what I, I don't know what I'm capable of doing."

The jury foreman, Jack Liles, said he was not convinced of Nichols' guilt. (Read Related Story).

"We didn't have an evil monster on our hands. We had an intelligent, articulate, educated man who did a reasonable job explaining his version of the events in his defense,” Liles said.

"I didn't have any doubt. For me, it was pretty clear," said juror Stephen O'Leary.

The Fulton County district attorney says he would like to resolve the rape trial but it looks unlikely following the shootings at the Fulton County Courthouse.
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www.ajc.com Brian Nichols 'Laid back . . . nice' . . . and troubled

Full coverage of the shooting at the courthouse and the capture of Brian Nichols
A relative called him a laid-back young man from a solid family.
But snapshots from Nichols' life portray a man who had been in trouble long before he was charged last summer with the violent rape of his ex-girlfriend.
Nichols, 33, has been arrested several times, has moved from job to job and was in arrears for child support payments for a baby he fathered when he was 20.
Nichols grew up in Baltimore and in South Carolina. In the fall of 1989, he began attending Kutztown University in Pennsylvania, where he declared a major in biology.
He went to the school for three semesters, and in 1989 he played linebacker on the college's football team, the Golden Bears.
Mark Steinmeyer, who played with Nichols and is now an assistant coach at Kutztown, said he doesn't remember Nichols as a great athlete.
But Mark Schuler, who played on the defensive line in 1989, recalled that Nichols was "a hell of a football player. He was like skating on ice when we were sweating. I thought he could make the show."
While at Kutztown, Nichols was arrested by campus police in 1990 and charged with harassment and disorderly conduct. He pleaded guilty and paid fines.
In 1992 and 1993, Nichols played football again, this time for Newberry College in South Carolina. But he was kicked off the team for stealing from a dormitory room, said Ryan Gross, a spokesman for the university athletics department.
'A good family'
In 1994, Nichols and his family moved to Florida and rented a peach-colored stucco house in Lauderdale Lakes, Fla., near Fort Lauderdale.
"They were excellent people, excellent," said Gloria Dilbert, an administrative assistant with the Broward County Commission.
About six months later, the family bought a home in nearby Lauderhill.
James Phillips, who sold the family the house, and Dilbert remembered that Nichols' mother, Claritha, worked with the Internal Revenue Service. Nichols' father, Gene, belonged to the Kiwanis Club of Central Broward and talked about starting a catering business with his son. They even brought a lunch wagon.
Neighbors there remembered Brian Nichols as a pleasant young man who liked to garden and walk to the park.
In 1995, Nichols tried to tried obtain a security officer's license in Florida but was denied because he didn't respond to a letter from the state asking for clarification about his criminal history, records show.
About the same time, Nichols' mother was transferred to Atlanta, and the family moved to Georgia. Not long after that Nichols was in trouble, and court records show that he was on probation from 1996 to 1999 for a felony drug case in Cobb County.
R. Joy Walker, a DeKalb County Recorders Court judge who used to be a public defender, represented Nichols at his probation revocation hearing after he was caught with a small amount of marijuana. "He was very respectful to me," Walker said.
The judge refused to revoke Nichols' probation because the evidence was flimsy, Walker said.
Reginald Small, a relative of Nichols' who lives in Baltimore, has not seen Nichols in about six years. But he called Nichols "a fine young gentleman."
"It's unbelievable. I'm watching the news, too," Small said. "I don't know what's going on. All I can say is he came from a good family."
But by last summer, when Nichols was charged with the rape of his former girlfriend, he was, in the eyes of police, a dangerous criminal who might be carrying a machine gun. That was why about 25 SWAT officers descended on his Sandy Springs condominium complex to arrest him.
"They were fully packed with automatic weapons drawn and with faces blacked out," recalled Greg Stalnaker, who lived next door to Nichols. "They were looking for someone armed and dangerous."
When police captured him days later, Nichols had two guns and a bag containing 10 pounds of marijuana, authorities said.
Assistant District Attorney Gayle Abramson, who was prosecuting Nichols on the rape charge, called him "cocky." But she said he had exhibited "nothing that was outwardly violent."
Barry Hazen, Nichols' defense lawyer, echoed the prosecutor's thoughts.
"Given the fact that he was charged with a very violent crime, he was very laid back, very easygoing, very polite, very mild in the way he came across. He never seemed to get ruffled or excited or angry or hostile, and that's not always the case. He was more laid back than most."
And while Stalnaker, the neighbor, said Nichols had "the air of a thug," Masoud Zahedi, a friend of the woman Nichols is accused of raping, described him as "a very pleasant guy."
Zahedi said Nichols was a "nice guy, good looking, always going to the gym. I was surprised [by Friday's events]."
He said Nichols and the alleged rape victim lived together for a while. Zahedi said Nichols told him he worked nights for a check-cashing operation.
Neighbors saw Nichols as a night owl, and a bit odd. Stalnaker said Nichols and a young boy were constantly using the pay telephone at the complex swimming pool at all times of day and night.
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For what? Having a psycho as a boyfriend?

If that was against the law then a large percentage of the women under 30 in this country would fry.

I'm for frying the killer, not those who (by whatever means) survived his animal nature.
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