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Old March 8, 2005, 06:56 PM   #1
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Police officer shoots himself while demonstrating gun safety

Oh my god, have you seen this? This is embarrassing and painful at the same time...

http://www.compfused.com/directlink/680/
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Old March 8, 2005, 07:02 PM   #2
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not all that surprising is it?
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Old March 8, 2005, 07:06 PM   #3
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Unfortunate accident. Lucky he didn't splatter one of those kids. I can't BELIEVE he didn't clear the chamber! I know he probably thought he did....but DAMN.....always, always check multiple times. I cycle the slide 2-3 times after I've physically looked just to make sure....
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Old March 8, 2005, 07:20 PM   #4
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Geez, what an idiot.

Now, all the kids will be afraid of guns because of this stupid accident and will grow up to be anti's of one sort or the other (may or may not).

That is why there are rules and things happen if you don't follow the rules!

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(when I said, what an idiot, I meant as a gun owner/person, not because he is an LEO)
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Old March 8, 2005, 07:36 PM   #5
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Wow....

Oh boy.......... I am at a total loss of words ..............just darn lucky he didn't kill himself or someone else..... maybe the department has a desk job or need help in the motor pool? yikes..........
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Old March 8, 2005, 07:59 PM   #6
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LOL simply amazing!
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:10 PM   #7
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Howdy,
Stupid is, is stupid does
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:17 PM   #8
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Looks as if he DID clear the chamber. But was too stoned to remove the mag. Closed the slide and pulled the trigger.
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:28 PM   #9
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another glock false discharge

not suprising that it happened.

1. He had live ammo in a safety demo
2. Glock pistol (safety in trigger)
3. Just broke all NRA rules of Gun Safety

Just can't beleive it.
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:36 PM   #10
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It is not the Glock's fault that Safety Sam picked it up and demo'd it to children...
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:40 PM   #11
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Before I watch that - where do he shoot himself? I don't want to see anything too gory.....
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:41 PM   #12
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sorry

Guns don't kill people people kill people

My mistake

or better yet

Guns don't shoot people stupid officers shoot themselves
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Old March 8, 2005, 08:53 PM   #13
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he would fit in perfectly with the local police department, assuming he weighs 300 pounds that is.
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Old March 8, 2005, 09:01 PM   #14
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You would think.....

if there was one time you would want to be extra safe it would be in a classroom environment teaching school kids about gun safety.

Guess not, what an idiot.
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Old March 8, 2005, 09:08 PM   #15
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He certainly got their attention !!
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Old March 8, 2005, 09:08 PM   #16
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Before I watch that - where do he shoot himself? I don't want to see anything too gory
In the leg and you can't see anything.

BTW, he's a DEA agent, a fed. He's definitely LEO, but not a cop.
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Old March 8, 2005, 09:19 PM   #17
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This has been extensively discussed on THR.
1) He opened the chamber, looked inside, showed the weapon to someone off camera, proclaimed it unloaded, then closed the chamber.
2) He never removed the mag
3) If you look closely, right before he snaps the slide shut, right as he tilts the weapon forward, you can see the shine of a round ready to be chambered.
4) He pointed the weapon at his thigh.
5) For some reason, he put his finger on the trigger.
6) For some reason, he pulled the trigger.
7) Luckiest man on the planet that he didn't kill a kid.
8) Should be fired.
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Old March 8, 2005, 09:19 PM   #18
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Even if he was a moron and did the ENTIRE demonstration with the thing loaded, what in the WORLD would posess him to put his finger on the trigger?

I say lucky nobody was hurt - things could've been a lot worse.
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Old March 8, 2005, 10:16 PM   #19
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A LEO in my state dropped a glock and grazed a kids cheek! Whats goin on?
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Old March 8, 2005, 10:25 PM   #20
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He should be required to take the "Eddie the Eagle" course again, then fired.

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Old March 8, 2005, 10:29 PM   #21
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I don't understand. Why did he keep doing the speech even after shooting himself? None of the people really looked scared.
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Old March 8, 2005, 10:32 PM   #22
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To all (and I know that I'm not a "paid mother hen" here)... please don't let this slide into a LEO (fed or local) bashing.

What the guy did was stupid, LEO (fed), or not. Dasmi has it right on what was discussed elsewhere but it did go down really quickly due to the bashing.

What we need to do is learn from what happened, and I will use Dasmi's report as a basis:

1) He opened the chamber, looked inside, showed the weapon to someone off camera, proclaimed it unloaded, then closed the chamber.

*Yes, it was unchambered but, it was still loaded. Anytime that ammo is ready to be used, the gun IS LOADED in my opinion.

2) He never removed the mag

*The start of the bad mojo. A lesson to be learned here folks, if the mag is still in the gun, when you close the slide, a round is now in the chamber.

3) If you look closely, right before he snaps the slide shut, right as he tilts the weapon forward, you can see the shine of a round ready to be chambered.

*I didn't see this but from Dasmi (knowing him) and from the other board, I have no reason to doubt this (I wear glasses so I'm blind on close ups of things ).

4) He pointed the weapon at his thigh.

*Never aim or point a firearm at anything that you aren't willing to destroy (or shoot).

5) For some reason, he put his finger on the trigger.

*Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.

6) For some reason, he pulled the trigger.

*Ditto

7) Luckiest man on the planet that he didn't kill a kid.

*Double Ditto

8) Should be fired.

*In this case, I agree. He was not paying attention to any of the safety rules, he endangered children, and then when he was hit he tried to play it off as "I should be the only one on the street with a gun" (before the accident) and then "accidents happen to everyone, even me, so therefore you shouldn't touch a gun" (driving a fear of the gun into the kids).

Things happen, and now I understand why so many went off on me when they thought I had done something stupid, but if you mind the rules like they should, this would have just been a hole in the floor and a very embarressing lesson learned, but he should still be fired or placed away from kids/adults if he is allowed a gun.

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Old March 8, 2005, 10:33 PM   #23
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I think he kept doing the speech because of EGO.
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Old March 8, 2005, 10:39 PM   #24
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I think he kept doing the speech because of EGO.
I think there's a better chance he was doing it to keep the kids calm and from panicking.
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Old March 8, 2005, 10:46 PM   #25
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I just watched it again. After he explains that accidents happen, he says, "now I'll probably never ever be allowed to show guns again...Brian, bring out that other gun." I think he was right
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