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Old January 29, 2005, 11:57 AM   #1
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9MM Ammo please explain.

Ok so I have been thinking about purchasing a handgun and have been looking around and it seems there are multiple types of 9MM ammo can someone please explain whats the diffrences? Say I bought a Glock 9mm what ammo would I use? And would that same ammo work in a Berreta 9mm ? Here is what I have seen so far.

9mm Lugar
9x23mm
9x18mm
9x19mm
9mm Parabellum
and on and on..

Also if you have a link to a site that gives explination that would be fine also.. Thanks Blake.
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Old January 29, 2005, 12:01 PM   #2
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Both guns use plain 9mm.
Don't worry, they know what you need at your gunshop.
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Old January 29, 2005, 12:16 PM   #3
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9mm Lugar = 9x19mm = 9mm Parabellum, these are all different names for the same cartridge collectively known to the US market as "9mm."

Since 9x19 is a "military" round and some countries don't allow citizens to own military calibers the others were developed for their markets so they could use the same bullets.
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Old January 29, 2005, 12:18 PM   #4
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Good article on 9mm Luger here, http://www.cartridgecollectors.org/intro9mm/
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Old January 29, 2005, 12:25 PM   #5
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Getting the right ammo for your gun is YOUR responsibility, always.
The side of the gun will state what it wants clearly. So will the manual.
But as a hint, the popular round you care about is the 9X19, aka "luger" or "Parabellum".

Dr. Luger invented a pistol and cartridge for it at the same time, back in 190x something or nother (1906?). The cartridge had a tapered casing and happened to be 19mm long. Bullet was 9mm in diameter.

When all this went public, some sales/marketing people decided to call it the "Parabellum" round -- meaning "for WAR". (Clever, and surprisingly poetic for a bunch of Germans, eh wot?)

So the Luger, the parabellum and 9X19 are all the same thing.
This the super-high-volume round everybody talks about. The one Browning invented a pistol for, the one Glock and all the other "wonder-nines" are using, and the one the US army uses right now.

9X18 and 9X23 (the 2nd number is length of cartridge case in mm) are unusual. You would only want them if you have made the point of getting the special weapon that uses them.
However, I was wandering the aisles of an ammo store a few weeks ago and almost picked up a case of the 9x18, so they ARE available and you need to be alert.

Have fun and stay safe.
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Old January 29, 2005, 12:43 PM   #6
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How's this for brain-picking, Blake?

9x17mm - 9mm Browning short/Kurz/short/Courto/380 acp etc.
9x18 Ultra (WW2 and re-introduced in later years)
9x18 Makarov (larger - 9.2mm Russian developed)
9x19 Glisenti - dimensionally same as 9mm Luger loaded much lighter truncated bullets to differentiate from hotter 9mmluger/SMG loads.
9x19 - Luger/parabellum/nato/Patronen 08 etc.
9x21 Several similar rounds. Introduced in Italy where "military calibers" not allowed to private owners, another used in competitive shooting in USA to make major caliber.
9mm Browning Long (9x20~) Swedish, Spanish, and others
9mm Mauser (9x25) not experimental but saw wide use in Broomhandles and SMG's.
9x23mm - Bergman bayard, Campo Giro(?), Steyr
9mm Mars - experimental semi-production for the British Mars Series of Pistols. bottle necked load.

Confused enough? Good! So be careful and read the labels!
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Old January 29, 2005, 05:20 PM   #7
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There are probably twice the number of "9mm" loads than even Jehzsa has listed. 9mm Mauser Export, 9mm Bayard Long, 9mm Steyr, etc.

If you walk into a store and ask for "a box of 9mm, please", you'll likely get the right stuff.

The common 9x18 will usually say "Mak" or "Makarov" on it.

When in doubt, compare the round to a fired case of the right kind. The difference is usually obvious.
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