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Old November 9, 2004, 01:14 PM   #101
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Hang on there Avizpls. The date has not been set, nor has the location. Stay tuned......
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Old November 9, 2004, 01:20 PM   #102
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Ooops. sorry.

Well, then I vote keep roughly the same date, but move it westward

No, really. I'll go wherever you all hold it. Thanks!
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Old November 9, 2004, 07:13 PM   #103
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I'm thinking its best to listen to Mr. Ross.

I'm going to try to get to W&W this Sunday but I'm only bringing my '06 with me. I just got done building my gun room and I am going to do some re-organizing of my reloading stuff.

Let's hold out until January.

In the mean time you guys are free to shoot your guns without me at any time.

Nice to hear from somebody over on 'the other side' of the State.
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Old November 9, 2004, 07:22 PM   #104
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Nice to hear from somebody over on 'the other side' of the State.
Where is this website based mostly?
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Old November 9, 2004, 07:34 PM   #105
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Florida I think.........


This website is just somewhat of a Rally Point for most of us. We generally like the Staff and Membership here more than most other boards. BTW If you guys like this board thank the Staff, especially, Rich Lucibella and Marko Kloos. I have nothing to do with this board other than dwell on it.

I am a Moderator on the rifle boards over at www.amback.com which merged with www.battlerifles.com but I still think of this place as home.
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Old November 9, 2004, 08:00 PM   #106
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I generaly like to keep one message board per personal interest. And this site seems to fill my Firearms interest.

Anyways, back to the topic; back to the range!
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Old November 10, 2004, 12:28 PM   #107
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Mr Ross!!!

Jeez....I have become the grumpy old fart of the TFL PA militia.

How about that PGC range near your friends cabin. After hunting season you can reserve the ranges for group use. Or another PGC range perhaps? One more centrally located.
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Old November 10, 2004, 01:39 PM   #108
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What about a little Rifleman's Challenge? We could shoot Fred's quick and dirty AQT at 25m, kick in $5/head, best score gets a prize (case of Port?). No one would have to, but it would be a way to mix it up a bit.

See http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/rifle.asp?ITEM=1

I'd contribute the targets and the prize.

Whaddya think?
I find this to be an attractive offer! I like to do a little gambling; and I love riflery. The only proviso I would have is that the playing field has to be, more or less, level.

No tack driving, bull barreled rifles with dial-in, 'astronomy scopes' on top. And, oh, one other thing: I get to shoot Hosman's new $2,000.00 Garand M-1! (It's OK, Jose; you can use my crappy old DCM gun.)
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Old November 10, 2004, 03:46 PM   #109
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It does sound fun but I've never shot my M1A further than 100 yards and then only from a bench. I would need a coach to help with the 200 & 300 yard stuff.
You'd be hard pressed to find a less experienced rifle dude than me.
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Old November 10, 2004, 04:49 PM   #110
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Funny you should say that! I’m a rifle coach; and I’d be glad to give a few free pointers to anyone who’ll be shooting against me in a prize money match. For instance, did you know that the world’s best riflemen, all, squint? That’s right, they do!

Another thing: If you want to really shoot straight, all you have to do is aim with the eye opposite to the one you normally use. ‘Why’, you might ask? Simple! Because, whatever the distance, your non-dominant eye has none of the old problems you’re used to overcoming in order to hit the target, dead center.

One other thing, I’ll offer a free scope sight-in service for all competitors immediately prior to the match. It’s a lot of extra work for me; but, if it’ll help to get any of my good shooting buddies right on target, fast, I’ll be glad to do it.

(By the way, how much money do you think we’ll be shooting for, anyway?)
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Old November 12, 2004, 11:27 PM   #111
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I'm going to try to get to W&W this Sunday but I'm only bringing my '06 with me.
What time? I need to test my 336.
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Old November 13, 2004, 09:05 AM   #112
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Maybe around 11am.

I'm hopefully going to reload a ton of 30/06 tonight and then do some long range group comparisons. I gotta settle on a bullet weight for the bolt action.

Might bring my AR, also.
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Old November 13, 2004, 02:26 PM   #113
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Old November 13, 2004, 04:31 PM   #114
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I hope those evil forces let me borrown their AR sight in tool again.

Gee... I hope SOMEBODY has a SIGHT IN TOOL there tomorrow.
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Old November 14, 2004, 01:34 AM   #115
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It might be a little later than 11am. Probable closer to 11:30 since my friend Steve might be coming along.
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Old November 14, 2004, 08:54 PM   #116
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Actually it'll be a little closer to 12:10pm.
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Old November 15, 2004, 10:17 AM   #117
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Has anyone ever been to the New Holland Gun club?
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Old November 15, 2004, 12:35 PM   #118
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New Holland and other PA Gun Clubs

One of these Jamie? PA Gun Clubs Source:

New Holland - New Holland Rifle & Pistol Club, Inc., PO Box 195, New Holland, PA 17557.
Phone: 717-354-0471
Facilities include: Outdoor Pistol (25, 50 yds), Indoor Pistol (22 rf, 50 ft), Outdoor Rifle (50 to 60 yds), Indoor Rifle (22 rf, 50 ft)
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New Holland - Penn Dutch Sportsmen, Inc., P.O. Box 83 Paes Road, New Holland, PA 17557.
Phone: 717-354-0641
Facilities include: Outdoor Pistol (10-25 yds), Outdoor Rifle (25-400 yds), Trap, Airgun
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Old November 15, 2004, 08:51 PM   #119
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Judging by what I've been finding out about W&W, that gun club might be our next meeting place. I'm going to try and get out to that place sometime in the next couple weeks/months.

Anyone been there?

It looks like its about the same distance from me that W&W is.
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Old November 16, 2004, 08:00 PM   #120
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New Holland - New Holland Rifle & Pistol Club, Inc., PO Box 195, New Holland, PA 17557.
Phone: 717-354-0471
Facilities include: Outdoor Pistol (25, 50 yds), Indoor Pistol (22 rf, 50 ft), Outdoor Rifle (50 to 60 yds), Indoor Rifle (22 rf, 50 ft)
I've shot here, and that outdoor rifle range should read 50 to 600 yards, not 60. It's very nice, and if W&W closes there's a good chance I'll join NHR&PC.
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Old November 16, 2004, 09:33 PM   #121
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Do they allow people to just show up and shoot? Or do you need to be a member?

Any rules or regulations we need to be aware of?
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Old November 19, 2004, 08:29 PM   #122
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You need to be a member or the guest of a member.

I'll try to get more info from a friend who belongs.
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Old November 19, 2004, 11:19 PM   #123
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Hey guys:

Any movement towards a date?

Also, the "Rifleman's Challenge" that I would suggest is that everyone who wants to kicks in enuf $ (5-10) so that the cost of the Port to the donor is free (AIM sells it now for $160). So 10 shooters = $16, 30 = $5.50, etc.

Rules I'd propose would be simple:
- no scopes (fellas, we're at 25m/82 feet)
- slings can be used in all positions, but are not required
- standing: 10 rds/2 mins
- seated/kneeling: for the two targets in this stage on the Fred QDAQT (Quick and Dirty Army Qualification Target), 50 seconds, start from standing loaded w/ two rounds, at whistle drop to seated/kneel, fire two rounds at left target, change mag/new mag w/ 8 rounds, 3 more shots at left target, 5 shots at right target.
- prone/rapid: same drill as above, only 60 seconds, drop to prone, three shots on each of the first two targets in this stage, with four shots into the final target
-prone slow: start in prone, 10 shots, 5 minutes, 2 shots in each of the two left targets, 3 shots in each of the two right targets
- "Thutty cal" rule: bullet hole, if sized up to .30 for you 5.56 shooters, if touching score line gets the higher score
- Winner/high score takes the case of ammo

I'll bet I can get Fred to kick in the targets; if not, I'll supply them.

Finally, for the gent that has never shot beyond 100m and has never gotten off the bench, I cannot recommend highly enough the Rifleman's Guides and Target Pacs from Fred:

http://www.fredsm14stocks.com/catalog/acc.asp

Until July, I too had never been in prone or seated positions, and never shot beyond 100. Using the Guide and the 25m training concept, I have gotten to where I can reliably (not every time, but a lot) hit head and shoulder targets at 400 and beyond with iron sights and 45 year old eyes. 300 and closer, they are kaput -- every time.

You can do it too!

PS: For real fun, come to the Hungarian Revolution shoot next weekend. See the post in this forum!
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Old November 20, 2004, 04:31 PM   #124
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Just to let you guys know Water and Wings will be open on Sundays during hunting season.
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Old November 20, 2004, 06:07 PM   #125
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With all the stuff I have going on right now I don't think I'll have time to organize anything until Late January or February. I think we'll have another big one in March or April, but we have to wait and see what goes on at W&W first. I'd really like to check out the New Holland gun club before I set any new plans. I'm personally a little tired of having to worry about all the "little" stuff that W&W doesn't get done unless I pressure them.

We don't need a big range for these Gatherings but we need to have it just to ourselves and have no restrictions on magazine capacity or any dopey rules like that.

Anyone buying land anytime soon?
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