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Old July 20, 2004, 04:28 PM   #1
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What manufacturer has the best gas system?

Of all the manufacturers of auto-loading shotguns, who has the most reliable (feeding light 2.75" to heavy 3" loads reliably) system, and the fastest cycling? These may be two different answers - probably will be. Does anyone know?
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Old July 20, 2004, 05:35 PM   #2
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The answer to both questions is Winchester, the SuperX2.
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Old July 20, 2004, 06:07 PM   #3
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I was thinking Berreta 390/391 sereis. I have not shot a Winchester though.
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edited to add: Actually, now that I think about it, I am not even sure if the 390/391 series will shoot both 2 3/4 & 3"ers.

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Old July 20, 2004, 08:25 PM   #4
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The Super X2 is what your describing. I have light 7/8oz to 1 1/2oz loads loaded up and it shoots them all. I haven't ran a lot of 3in shells but it cycles them perfectly also. Just for S&G's I wanted to see how fast it will cycle and my shooting buddy's couldn't belive I just shot 5 rounds that fast.
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Old July 20, 2004, 09:42 PM   #5
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The Winchester X-2 and the Browning Gold have the same exact gas system.

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Old July 21, 2004, 11:26 AM   #6
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Thanks! Benelli not as good as the Win and Browning?
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Old July 23, 2004, 10:55 PM   #7
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Call me old fashioned, but I like the 1100/11-87 series Remington autoloaders. I have never had problems, but it is nice to know I can correct any that might arise, as the system is simple.

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Old July 23, 2004, 11:55 PM   #8
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FirstFreedom. Benelli does not use a gas system, they use an inertial operating system. In my experience the Benelli is not as reliable as a quality gas gun like the SuperX2, Beretta 390/391, or even the old trusty Remington 1100. I have owned several of each, so it isn't like I am guessing.
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Old July 24, 2004, 06:41 AM   #9
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This is a very objective question, but in my opinion, if you are looking for the best looking, softest shooting, most accurate, most reliable gas operated shotgun out there, choose the Beretta 391.

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Old July 24, 2004, 10:26 AM   #10
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Very good - thanks a lot! I will look at the Win SuperX2, the Browning Gold, and the Beretta 391.
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Old July 24, 2004, 04:42 PM   #11
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Here's my two cents. I'd go with the Super X2/Browning Gold IF I cleaned my gun after each shooting session. The Beretta has been more reliable for me when I neglect cleaning it. The Benelli has been the most reliable of all but since it is not a gas system it kicks like a mule.
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Old August 12, 2004, 04:34 PM   #12
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In My Humble Opinion...

After Selling My Beretta 391 Urika Synthetic, I Bought A Super Black Eagle Ii.

I Regret Doing It...

I´ve Owned Several Shotguns And Recall Beretta 391 The Best Of The Gas System Shotguns.

I Can´t Imagine Buying A Seminole 391 Urika. (almost A Wet Dream).

My Benelli Works Great (+1500 Shells Through It And No Malfunctions. Yet.).

Joe
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Old August 28, 2004, 11:16 PM   #13
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M4 is the fastest cycling shotgun there is (recoil/gas hybrid).

391 is one of the softest shooting clay guns there is. and it shoots 2-3/4 and 3". True ther eis more to it than other gas guns, but I know plenty of SC shooters who carry a can a break free with them and when it starts jaming, they just spray it in the action, let it drip dry and go back to shooting.

But this is all moot. What fits you the best? You cna save money and get the SX2 but if you have to spend $300+ to have it fit to you where the 391 already fits you, is it really cheaper?
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Old August 29, 2004, 08:28 AM   #14
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At a gun store yesterday I noticed that Beretta now has a 392 model!

In my experience Sporting Clays shooters flock to the Berettas, but this is probably herd mentality. They jam up just like a mossberg
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Old August 31, 2004, 11:20 PM   #15
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I have to agree with HSMITH above.
SX2 gets my top vote - 'course I'm biased, right partial to the SX1
Beretta 390/ 391 , then again the 302/303 was reliable.
Gimme a 1100 in Rem offering anyday over a 11-87.
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Old September 1, 2004, 04:42 PM   #16
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Drundel - what's an M4? Thanks.
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Old September 5, 2004, 04:05 PM   #17
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http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/m4.tpl

Its a SWEET combat shotgun.
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Old September 5, 2004, 04:57 PM   #18
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what's an M4?
The finest combat shotgun made...



IMHO, ofcourse...
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Old September 6, 2004, 04:24 PM   #19
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Either the Browning(I have one), or the winchester SX2. Only 3 parts, piston, guide, and spring. Very simple.
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Old October 17, 2004, 11:46 PM   #20
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I have a Rem 1187. It has been a superb weapon for hunting, trap and skeet for me. I have also shot my uncles Browning semi-auto.(I don't know what model it was.) The browning was a great gun also! He had a Rem 1100 before that. The only problem with the 1100 was, it was chambered for 3 inch. If you shot a trap, or dove and quail load, it would not eject it! My 1187 is chambered for 3 inch. I have never had that problem with it. I believe they fixed that in that model. My only other suggestion would be to keep the gun clean and keep a few extra O rings with you just in case!
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