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Old December 4, 2002, 06:48 PM   #1
Jorah Lavin
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Very Specific: .44spl, 180 gr flat nose lead, Bullseye

What starting charge weight?

I've been loading this bullet on top of W231, but I'm out and have a fresh pound of Bullseye on hand... but no data on hand for starting/max charge weight for bullseye with a 180 gr bullet.

Any suggestions?

-Jorah

PS: Alliant web site lists:

Minimum OAL (inches) 1.600
Bbl Length 5.6
Primer Win WLP
Powder Bullseye
Charge Weight (grains) 6.5
Velocity (fps) 910
Chamber Pressure (psi) c.u.p. 12,000

But for 180 JHC, not lead
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Old December 4, 2002, 11:41 PM   #2
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My later books don't show for 180 cast.

My 41st Lyman shows MAX of 6.8 bullseye for 180 cast.

Sam
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Old December 5, 2002, 11:50 AM   #3
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180gr Cast

JL,
My 45th Lyman shows the #429348 bullet (180gr. cast) with a starting load of 4.0gr Bullseye for 691fps and a max of 6.8gr Bullseye for 1033fps. An added note says the 4.0gr load is the "accuracy load". Various other Lyman books do not show a load for Bullseye but does for Red Dot and 700X which are in the same burn rate ballpark. Quantrill
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Old December 5, 2002, 02:52 PM   #4
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Sam, Quantrill; Thanks!

4.0 gr it is. I'm loading for trigger control and other practical practice... I carry my Bulldog on my weak-hand side, so I figure I better learn how to draw and fire it one-handed, too.

-Jorah
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Old December 5, 2002, 03:49 PM   #5
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180gr cast

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I would be very interested in knowing how you make out. I have a mold made by NEI with the 180gr cast bullet as one of four in a four cavity mold. While I have made a few of them, I never shot any and was thinking of using them as a Cowboy load. Please let me know how you do with them as regards accuracy and recoil. You can contact me off list or here on the reloaders forum. Thanks, Quantrill
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Old December 5, 2002, 04:17 PM   #6
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I've fired 60 of 'em with W231

Quantrill

I've shot up 60 lead and 80 JHP in 180 gr, bought before I realized that .44spl usually get heavier bullets (it seems that 240 gr is a popular size).

I'm not a great shot, so I don't know how accurate they might be in the hands of a good shooter.

Firing off-hand, with my weak hand, I was keeping all shots on a paper plate at 7 yards.

Firing off-hand, strong hand/two handed, I was able to keep all shots in an area about the size of the palm of my hand at 7 yards; good enough for me, since this is a CCW gun.

In something other than a snubby, and someone other than me shooting, I'll bet they'd be great.

BTW, that is 6.3 gr of W231 under the lead bullet. I like them!

I probably will get a heavier bullet when I restock; I'm just about out of both kinds right now, and I'm really enjoying shooting the Bulldog. (I'm really tired of chasing brass from the Kimber)

-Jorah
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Old December 5, 2002, 05:45 PM   #7
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Keith Bullets

JL,
If you are looking for a heavier bullet (cast), I would like to suggest a Keith Bullet ( a bullet designed by Elmer Keith) not a brand name. There is an excellent article at the below web page that could be of interest to you. Quantrill

http://www.schuetzen.net/skelton_load.htm
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Old December 6, 2002, 09:56 AM   #8
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Loaded Lyman #429348 190gr wadcutter with 4.5gr Bullseye for my S&W M24 to get 1.5" groups at 25yds. That's as good as I got with anything else in this revolver. This is a fairly light target load. Never tried to soup it up.
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