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Old October 14, 2002, 11:16 PM   #1
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best powder for 30-06 w. 150gr bullets

I know I am the first person to ever ask this question but can someone recommend one of the newer powders for the old Ought Six? The rifle in question is a bolt action, so no issues with Garands & powder burning rates. I'm looking for the best combo of accuracy and velocity, within sane pressure limits.

I really like Reloader powders - have tried Reloader 19 and gotten good accuracy, but with this lot of powder I see velocities that are struggling to match factory speeds over the chrono, and case expansion is greater than factory levels. I know that 4350 will also do the job, but I was wondering what others could recommend.
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Old October 15, 2002, 01:02 AM   #2
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H-414 From 48.5 grains to 60.4 grains
Winchester WLR Primer
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Old October 15, 2002, 05:27 AM   #3
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Old October 15, 2002, 05:54 AM   #4
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Accurate 3100

56-60 grains
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Old October 15, 2002, 06:42 AM   #5
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One way to determine which powder is best for your particular application is to look at a few current reloading manuals and take a hard look at the the top 3 or 4 powders showing the highest velocity at their starting loads. This was passed on to me by an old reloader long since gone, and has worked well for me for 20+ years.
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Old October 15, 2002, 08:22 AM   #6
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Got to agree withn Steve and Sensop H-414 and WW760 are very close in burning rate and will work well............IMR 4320 is not a bad powder either and of course the old standard IMR-4895 will work too................a tad slower velocities, and higher pressures with it though.
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Old October 15, 2002, 10:41 AM   #7
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I've never gotten around to trying RL-19 but I'm totally sold on RL-15 for my .308's and .06. In the .06 I use 53 grains of 15; 150 grain Nosler BT; and a Fed 210M primer. Average 2800 FPS. Lee says 53.6 is max but I haven't pushed it there yet. Maybe you can find a powder that will give you more speed but I get such good accuracy out of that old Rem 700 with that load that I don't screw with it anymore. Good luck.
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Old October 16, 2002, 02:16 AM   #8
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IMR 4064 has given me the best accuracy and the highest velocity combination of all the powders I have tried with 150 gr bullets in the 06.

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Old October 16, 2002, 02:22 AM   #9
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I can't offer you any Guicci loads. My standard deer load is 60.2 grains of H4350 and a Hornady Interlok. This year, I am going to be using the same load with a Sierra Game King bullet. This gives you close to 3000 fps. I was testing some handgun loads the other day and fired one of my deer rounds through the screens; it was 2968, so that velocity is pretty close. The deer I have shot with this load looked like they were hit by lightning.
If you are looking for "new" powders, Hodgdon began making their extreme powders a few years ago. Same burn rate but it is supposed to maintain that burn rate over a much wider range of ambient temperatures.
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Old October 16, 2002, 11:11 PM   #10
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Aw, you know how it is about habits. I started loading 52.5 grains of 4064 because my uncle said that's what I oughta use. I'm gonna argue with my uncle?

That was in 1950. The load doesn't seem to care what primer I use, or what brand of bullet I use. It just keeps shooting tight groups and Bambi keeps falling over, flop.

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Old October 16, 2002, 11:51 PM   #11
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funny how tight groups usually = Bambi falling over

I love Reloader 22 in the .25-06, .270, & .300 win mag, figured R19 would be great in the '06 - one lot of powder looked like great stuff, the next lot really acted wierd, less velocity AND more case expansion. Puzzling. I may get another lot and see what it does.

The load I'm using of R19 is slightly compressed when the bullet is seated, and is giving 2850 fps.

I also do have some H414 and 4350, both of which sound like great choices.

Anyone try the Ramshot or Vhitavouri (I hope that's how it's spelled) powders?
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Old October 16, 2002, 11:53 PM   #12
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H414, 58-1/2 GR with Remington 9 1/2 standard LR primers and either Speer 150 Spitzers or Remington 150 Core-Lokt. Good for 2950FPS from my Model 70 XTR Featherweight. Cases last about 8-10 loadings in my gun. Not quite max in my rifle, but close enough for my needs.

H414, WW760 and IMR 4350 are all similar in burning rate. The ball powders can be metered through any powder measure, where the extruded powders cannot.

NOTE!!!!!!

Work up to this load from about 56.0 GR
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Old October 17, 2002, 08:51 AM   #13
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I use IMR 4895, 47.5 grains. The milspec load is 50 gr of IMR 4895. I do the 2.5 less for saftey and those rounds are accurrate in my Garands and M1903s
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