Why not a 9mm Scadium/Titanium?

MatthewVanitas · October 6, 2002, 12:03 AM

I've been debating the purchase of a 642 for pocket carry, and wishing that my 9mm SP-101 wasn't built like a steel ignot. It does seem high time that someone took a stab at building a 9mm snub-nose again.

Really, they build little Ti snubs in .357, wouldn't it be more practical to use the more efficient 9mm in such a short barrel? Less blast and recoil, yet better velocity than the .38Spl. Plus cheaper ammo, the convenience of moonclips, etc. I realize that 9mm revos tanked in the past, but maybe they deserve another look. The retooling would be pretty darn minimal (just a different tool for boring the cylinder, without the shoulder for the rim, but with a shoulder for the case mouth). If 9mm revos ever became popular, it'd be great to see a dedicated shorter cylinder/frame for them, but that's a stretch. It's just a great round for a snub...

On a related topic, when one has a comment for the company, like the above, would it be (marginally) more useful to contact one of their major wholesalers, rather than the company itself? I know some of the major wholesalers get special models from the large companies on a regular basis, and they might be willing to talk Ruger or S&W into doing a limited run for that particular wholesaler. Has anybody tried that tack w/ Davidsons or Lew Horton? More productive than complaining about it here...

C.R.Sam · October 6, 2002, 07:49 PM

Seems like a lot of bother to shoot 9X19 from a little and light gun.

Just back .357Mag loads WAY down and use em in one of the multitude of superlights already on the market.

Sam

don't shoot it's me · October 6, 2002, 08:10 PM

I'm with Sam but just out of curiousity, what would be the advantage in velocity of a 125 grain 9mm round over a 38? I carry 125 grain +p speers...don't really know the actual velocity...

C.R.Sam · October 7, 2002, 12:27 AM

125gr...
9X19 vs .38 Special +P...
Coin flip. Depending on brand of ammo and individual gun used.

Sam

PsychoSword · October 7, 2002, 02:41 AM

I would love a Scandium 9mm. That way my Beretta 92 carry gun would have a backup gun that uses the same ammo.

DrDremel · October 7, 2002, 09:17 AM

I would buy one as well. The short case makes for easy extraction. Practice ammo would be cheaper my a small margin.

October 6, 2002, 12:03 AM	#1
MatthewVanitas Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2000 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 256	Why not a 9mm Scadium/Titanium? I've been debating the purchase of a 642 for pocket carry, and wishing that my 9mm SP-101 wasn't built like a steel ignot. It does seem high time that someone took a stab at building a 9mm snub-nose again. Really, they build little Ti snubs in .357, wouldn't it be more practical to use the more efficient 9mm in such a short barrel? Less blast and recoil, yet better velocity than the .38Spl. Plus cheaper ammo, the convenience of moonclips, etc. I realize that 9mm revos tanked in the past, but maybe they deserve another look. The retooling would be pretty darn minimal (just a different tool for boring the cylinder, without the shoulder for the rim, but with a shoulder for the case mouth). If 9mm revos ever became popular, it'd be great to see a dedicated shorter cylinder/frame for them, but that's a stretch. It's just a great round for a snub... On a related topic, when one has a comment for the company, like the above, would it be (marginally) more useful to contact one of their major wholesalers, rather than the company itself? I know some of the major wholesalers get special models from the large companies on a regular basis, and they might be willing to talk Ruger or S&W into doing a limited run for that particular wholesaler. Has anybody tried that tack w/ Davidsons or Lew Horton? More productive than complaining about it here... __________________ --Capitalism isn't a program or a system like "socialism," but a description of reality like "the Pythagorean theorem." Deal with it.

October 6, 2002, 07:49 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,864	Seems like a lot of bother to shoot 9X19 from a little and light gun. Just back .357Mag loads WAY down and use em in one of the multitude of superlights already on the market. Sam

October 6, 2002, 08:10 PM	#3
don't shoot it's me Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2001 Location: NY first/LA second Posts: 1,537	I'm with Sam but just out of curiousity, what would be the advantage in velocity of a 125 grain 9mm round over a 38? I carry 125 grain +p speers...don't really know the actual velocity...

October 7, 2002, 12:27 AM	#4
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,864	125gr... 9X19 vs .38 Special +P... Coin flip. Depending on brand of ammo and individual gun used. Sam

October 7, 2002, 02:41 AM	#5
PsychoSword Junior member Join Date: August 11, 2002 Location: North Dakota Posts: 1,486	I would love a Scandium 9mm. That way my Beretta 92 carry gun would have a backup gun that uses the same ammo.

October 7, 2002, 09:17 AM	#6
DrDremel Member Join Date: September 19, 2002 Location: South East Michigan Posts: 68	I would buy one as well. The short case makes for easy extraction. Practice ammo would be cheaper my a small margin.