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Old December 23, 1999, 03:34 PM   #1
Wild West Guns
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We are now ready to begin regular production of our take down Alaskan Co-Pilot lever guns in these two calibers, as well as converting Marlin 1895s.
The 50 Alaskan is shooting a 450 grain bullet at 2050 fps for about 4200 foot pounds of energy. Loaded ammo is about $80.00 per box.

The 457 is a 350 grain bullet at 2200 fps. We are using a shortened 45-90 case (or a lengthed 45-70 as the case may be)so standard 45-70 loads can also be used.

Would like to hear your thoughts.



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Old December 23, 1999, 06:00 PM   #2
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A Marlin 1885G is the basic model that is used for your 457 Magnum rifle. The original marlin has a maximum 40000 Psi capacity. A 45-70 P+ 350 grain bullet travels at 2050 fps. At that level of power, what are the performance gains in the 457 Magnum? That 45-70 will stop anything in this hemisphere. What is gained by using a 45-90. Is this 45-90 loaded at lower pressure in order to extend the rifles longevity or is the rifle beefed up a bit in order to sustain the heavier load? Very beautiful rifle. I think that alone justifies a purchase!

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Old December 23, 1999, 07:05 PM   #3
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We don't know of any factory 45-70 loads except for specialty loads that achieve that type of velocity. In any event we are getting 2200 in the same bbl legnth by using a new powder that is not yet available to the public. Our load is within the pressure specs for the Marlin.
The beauty of the concept is that you can use standard factory loads for practice and then switch off to the 457 for serious work.
We find that the large Alaskan critters go down much easier when they are hit with this load, which by the way is loaded with a suoper premium Kodiak bonded core bullet specially made with an extra thick jacket.

If you want to get really serious, think about that 50!
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Old December 24, 1999, 02:54 PM   #4
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Theres a couple of old classic bear-guide rounds that I believe are based on the .348 case known as the .450 and .50 Alaskan and built from Winchester Model 71's - is your .50 Alaskan the same animal?

If your .50 Alaskan is the same thing, then is a great resurrection of that grand old round because the old Winchester Model 71's are in short supply and too expensive to convert anymore.

Are we talking about the same thing or am I just confused?


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Old December 24, 1999, 05:34 PM   #5
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Keith, the 50 Alaskan is in fact the original 50 as built by Harold Johnson down in Cooper Landing years ago. We have updated it by way of good Kodiak bonded core bullets and modern powder, but it is still based on the 348 case.

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