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Old August 10, 2002, 11:05 PM   #1
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Mobil 1 as lubricant !?!?!?!

Some people in Glocktalk are talking about using Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil to lube their guns. How many people do that for their guns (please mention brand/model if possible)

Are there differences between motor oil and gun oil ????

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Old August 10, 2002, 11:55 PM   #2
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...Mobil-One used as firearm lubricant....

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And I bet some red-eyed drooler is thinking about shoving Crisco in the action of his 12 guage

Seriously, I've read posts from chemical engineers who unanimously agree that, even though an engine may turn 7000 RPM(notice, I didn't say "RPMs...It's Revolutions Per Minute, so the "s" after RPM is redundant...but, try to tell that to someone with a diesel engine who calls it a Cummings -- there is NO "G"!!!
It is pronounced, "Cummins"! Sorry I went on a rant, but people who "murdalize" our language really bother me.

I would stick with lubricants meant for firearms and let the "Double Digits"(low IQ)feed Oleo Margerine to their soon-to-explode firearms.
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:00 AM   #3
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Actually, if you think about it for a moment, you'll see that Mobil 1 synthetic isn't much different than many of the other synthetic gun oils that are being sold these days.

One HELL of a lot cheaper, too.

Mobil 1, Penzoil, Valvoline, and just about any other motor oil has everything needed to be a good firearms lubricant.
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:03 AM   #4
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Yeah, motor oil is much cheaper.

I think gun oil is slightly thicker in viscosity but have never measured them myself to make a comparison. (IMO, not worth the minor amount of work to do so.)

If you think about it, motor oil is capable of handling the high temperatures of chemical explosions in your engine but still lubricate the moving metal parts. Your gun will never achieve those temperatures so would most likely work even better in firearm lubrication applications. From what I've read from others who have used it and researched/deduced myself, a heavy weight synthetic (from any brand) would be the best to choose. The oil draining from between the moving parts is not an issue with me as I regularly lube up just before shooting.
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:07 AM   #5
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I've used Mobile1 on some of my glocks, they require very little in the way of lubrication. It's really not a big deal one way or the other what you use with them, just use a small amount of something in the right spots. Never noticed any of mine exploding but that may have been due to my low IQ . Will be sure to post back immediatly if I note any of my fingers have been blown off though
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:13 AM   #6
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There Is No Question,

Mobil 1 lube's Firearm's exceptionally well,but It's no longer a full Synthetic.In fact Mobil changed the formula Of it's Mobil 1 and they won't even say in the ad's, what it actually is now. I suspect they changed it from a full synthetic,to it's new formula to save money. I always liked Militec better anyway...
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:29 AM   #7
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hansolo.....

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I would stick with lubricants meant for firearms and let the "Double Digits"(low IQ)feed Oleo Margerine to their soon-to-explode firearms
Hey, Mr. Triple Digit IQ Genius, stop butchering the English language! It's spelled M-A-R-G-A-R-I-N-E!

FWIW, I like using Mobil-1 15W50 for lubrication. I find it stays put, stays "wet", and doesn't seem to attract alot of dirt and debris. I don't have any scientific proof, but I think it lubricates better than Breakfree. It just doesn't clean and protect as well.
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:35 AM   #8
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It's Revolutions Per Minute, so the "s" after RPM is redundant
,Rather than using the word "redundant",
^ Hey look! One of my apostrophes fell down.
inappropriate would be nearer the mark.

Sorry for the rant....you know the rest.
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:44 AM   #9
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hansolo - Please don't leave us in suspense. What do the engineers agree to concerning the engine that may turn 7000 RPM? You didn't finish the sentence before going off on the rantangent.
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Old August 11, 2002, 01:03 AM   #10
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I'll Bet,

hansolo is out buying some mobil 1.......
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Old August 11, 2002, 01:14 AM   #11
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Han's last post actually made me laugh out loud. He was about to announce some technical point about agreement among chemical engineers, then snapped into rant mode and completely lost his point. Han, I absolutely intend no disrespect, I do it all the time, but fortunately it's not usually in writing.
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Old August 11, 2002, 01:37 AM   #12
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Why… why??? WHY!!! On earth would you want to do this to any gun?
 
Old August 11, 2002, 01:46 AM   #13
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Motor oils have addatives that you do not need for general lubrication. Basically I believe that oil is oil. For a weapon you are only interested in lubrication and rust preventative. Any oil will do this. You just need to be aware of the viscosity. You would not want a heavy viscosity on your firing pin in cold weather etc.
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Old August 11, 2002, 02:01 AM   #14
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Temperature stability of viscosity counts too.

Some rather thin lubricants get right stiff when cold.
While some that are viscous at normal temps continue to flow when cold.

And some rather thin lubricants have high film strength.
While other, more viscous, lubes fail under shear loads.

Not simple.
But most any lubricant will work most of the time.

Can you pick the time of your next encounter ?

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Old August 11, 2002, 07:50 AM   #15
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Instead of insulting IQs, spelling, punctuation, etc., I'll just answer the first part of Dave's question and say that I use Mobil 1 on some of my firearms. I also managed to fly attack helicopters in the Army for 20 years in spite of my single-digit IQ

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Old August 11, 2002, 10:53 AM   #16
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Why… why??? WHY!!! On earth would you want to do this to any gun?-Ga_Glock_Groupie
Guess I shouldn't tell you about improving my G-17's trigger pull with the framing hammer either huh?

http://www.sportshooter.com/gssf/dalerhea_dremeling.htm (about 1/2 way down "Tightening the slide to frame fit
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Old August 11, 2002, 12:11 PM   #17
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When I was looking to purchase an AR15, a knowledgable fellow on Glock Talk convinced me that I could do no better than to buy a Bushmaster "Shorty". He was right. In the years I've owned the Bushmaster, it's not malfunctioned one single time. I've even TRIED to get it to "short-stroke" by lining up the gaps on the three gas rings on the bolt. My Bushmaster still worked perfectly. I lube it with CLP (old habits die hard). However, the fellow who recommended the Bushie to me lubes his with nothing but Mobile 1. It's just got to be a good gun lube because he's never had a malfunction either. (And he's fired his Bushie lots and LOTS more than I've fired mine.)

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Old August 11, 2002, 01:06 PM   #18
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I use Havoline full synthetic 5w30 almost exclusively.It stays put much better than other lubes i've used.The main exception to this is when i get a new used gun like a CZ-52 or the like.After a thorough scrubbing with mineral spirits and a 24 hour dry time,it gets a RemOil bath.After that,its the Havoline.
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Old August 11, 2002, 01:13 PM   #19
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It's versatile. Also assists penetration.
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Old August 11, 2002, 02:13 PM   #20
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It's also water soluble--if you're going to use that kind of lube may I suggest a silicone based product?

Seriously, though, hasn't this discussion already been done on TFL? Seems there's 2 camps: those who use motor oils and swear by them, and those who think the whole idea is retarded--I think i'll stick to the firearm-specific products for now.
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Old August 11, 2002, 02:26 PM   #21
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Synthetics?

Another satisfied Mobil 1 Tri-synthetic user here. But I use alot of others as well.
Just can't stand the smell of CLP and it failed me miserably on my hand cart.
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Old August 11, 2002, 04:02 PM   #22
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"Why… why??? WHY!!! On earth would you want to do this to any gun? "

Instead of just rolling your eyes and crying to the sky, care to share exactly Why... why??? WHY!!! using motor oil ($5 something a quart for synthetic) is apparently so much worse than using a gun-specific oil (some of it as much as $500 a quart)?

Especially when both are designed to do the exact same thing -- reduce friction between moving parts?

Your post make it seem as if rapid, irreversible damage will result if Mobil 1 or another type of motor oil is used for lubrication...
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Old August 11, 2002, 04:28 PM   #23
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Gun specific lubricants only...

Many, if not most, of which are common lubes rebranded.

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Old August 11, 2002, 04:31 PM   #24
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... and price quintupled.
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Old August 11, 2002, 05:02 PM   #25
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You may be a gun nut if . . . you actually try something that you read on TFL.

Have used motor oil as lube on 1911s in two skuls now. No problems at all. Will report back if any trouble.
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