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Old July 23, 2002, 09:00 AM   #1
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Bolt travel.. why is it....

.. on modern pump shotguns that the entire bolt travel must be enclosed?

As opposed to the old '97s that the Cowboy folks like, where the bolt comes out the rear over the hammer like in a lever rifle?

Seems to me that it forces everything else forward, and thus makes the gun more cumbersome to use and carry. Or does this just not bother folks anymore?


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Old July 23, 2002, 10:15 AM   #2
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Probably to prevent crud from getting into the action, and to allow for stronger loads.

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Old July 23, 2002, 11:21 AM   #3
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Yep, to keep the action clean and functioning. And we usually do not have exposed hammers that need cocking, the reason for the bolt coming out on the '97.
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Old July 23, 2002, 01:19 PM   #4
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K80Geoff pretty well covered it.

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Old July 23, 2002, 02:04 PM   #5
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But aren't shotgun hammers still hammers, albeit shrouded like in "hammerless" revolvers? If so....

Why is crud in the action an issue in shotguns and not in lever rifles? The same action is going on there in the receiver between the 30-30 and the old '97 shotgun, more or less... why did it die out in shotguns and not in rifles? Do shotgun shells generate a lot more fouling than rifle rounds? Is it that there's more muck in the birdpond than the deerfields? Or is it that people are used to things looking a certain way, and John Wayne carried a thutty thutty?


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Old July 23, 2002, 02:35 PM   #6
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The notion implied by your last question sounds plausible to me...
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Old July 23, 2002, 02:59 PM   #7
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Remington pump rifles have an enclosed bolt throw, and no exposed hammer...

just a design that didn'tneed the extra port for the bolt to hang out... and the hammer swings up from below, out of the trigger group... so BASICALLY there is not alot of "moved foreward" parts...

just a different design...
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Old July 23, 2002, 05:43 PM   #8
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Only reason lever rifles are still around in the hunnert yar old configuration is there are enough buyers that think they look cool.

And a few still use them.....well.

Practicality often takes a back seat to "Marketing"

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Old July 23, 2002, 06:20 PM   #9
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