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Old April 4, 2002, 10:20 AM   #1
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Can somebody explain "Cutting the pie"?

I've heard/read this expression many times in relation to how to approach/round corners. Can someone describe this process? Thanks!
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Old April 4, 2002, 11:42 AM   #2
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The more common term is "slicing the pie". If you do a search on that phrase (click the Search button on the top right of the page), you will find dozens of threads describing and discussing it.
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Old April 4, 2002, 12:15 PM   #3
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Not to be confused with "cutting the cheese."
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Old April 6, 2002, 11:03 AM   #4
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Quick explaination:

When approaching a corner, one does not just walk around it, or poke one's head around it. One steps back a ways, so as to be 'going wide' around the corner, and proceeds very slowly, inching around and looking for target indicators (body parts, weapons, shadows, smells, sounds) in the region to be entered. It is called slicing the pie (I think) because if you treat the corner as the fixed point at the center of a circle and you treat your path around the corner as a trip around a circle's circumference, your action is proceeding forward is like taking a slice out of a pie.

Clear as mud?

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Old April 6, 2002, 06:37 PM   #5
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Mikes explanation clear as pie to me.

Doin it that way cuts down on the suprises one can find by approaching from close to the wall and just popping into the next range of view.

Apex your corners when racin, keep track when walkin.

Situational awareness and all that.

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Old April 7, 2002, 12:19 AM   #6
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maximize to minimize

Slicing the pie is maximizing your distance from a corner while minimizing your exposure to a potential threat. While using this technique to clear rooms you will be able to literally see an assailant before he/she can see you. It is highly effective.
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Old April 7, 2002, 09:57 AM   #7
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While not directly gun or doorway related, but conceptually, there is a neat graphic in the original Star Wars movie that shows the Death Star (or whatever it was called), coming around the planet and on the command consoles, you could see pie slices being add as it came around, the slices showing the additional new territory it could shoot until finally one of those pieces of pie is displayed over the intended target.

With people and doors or corners, it is more complicated than that, but the movie should give you a good working visual concept referencd.
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Old April 7, 2002, 10:48 AM   #8
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That, actually, is an excellent visual. I had never thought of it before, but as soon as your emntioned it, i knew exactly the scene you're talking about.

The important point is you don't just blunder around a corner like you're going on a Sunday stroll.

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"And here's Smith and Wesson," murmurs Coronach, Mozambiquing six rounds of .357 into the critter at a range of three feet. -Lawdog

"True pacifism is the finest form of manliness. But if a man comes up to you and cuts your hand off, you don't just offer him the other one. Not if you want to go on playing the piano, you don't." -Sam Peckinpah

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Old April 8, 2002, 10:39 AM   #9
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Thanks all!

DNS--that really was a great analogy!
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Old April 8, 2002, 11:54 AM   #10
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For all you FPS players, "Slicing the pie" is basically circle strafing around corners.
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Old April 8, 2002, 05:40 PM   #11
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So does this one attaboy make up for several of my previous cruddy analogies that didn't work for anyone but me?

For future reference and citation, just call it the Double Naught Spy Star Wars Death Star Slicing the Pie Analogy, or DNSSWDSSPA for short. That should keep everything perfectly clear.
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