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Old March 25, 2002, 05:06 PM   #1
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Cast bullet loads for the .30-06

I have loading data for a 150gr cast bullet using pistol powders such as Unique. I have some 159gr and 175gr cast bullets that I cannot find any loading data for. Does anyone have any such data that they would share with me, or know where I could find it? Any information on the subject will be appreciated.
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Old March 25, 2002, 07:46 PM   #2
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Cast bullet loads for the .30-06

May I suggest reading pages 90 through 93 of the LEE Loading Manual. It tells of a $5 program you can get from them that will down size RIFLE loads.
You select the velocity and use the jacketed bullet[s] you now shoot.
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Old March 25, 2002, 08:28 PM   #3
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I have used 42 grains of IMR-4895 in the ought six with a Lyman 170 Gas checked round nosed cast bullet. Results were outstanding.
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Old March 25, 2002, 08:38 PM   #4
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Lots of cast load data in the Lyman books also.

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Old March 25, 2002, 08:41 PM   #5
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Lyman No 47 has a good deal of cast bullet data. In the meantime, your 150 gr data will apply to a 159. Maybe a grain off for the 175. Your'e not loading at maximum anyway, are you? I have lately had fun with 7 grains of 700X and a 165 gr BB in .30-06. A load of 12 gr 700X is as accurate, but louder.
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Old March 25, 2002, 09:44 PM   #6
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Hey Bad,

I cast the Lyman #311466 (about 150+ grains), lube, apply gas check, and size it to .309, and then I use it in most of my 30 cal rifles - including three M-1 Garands. In the past, I have used generally slower powders such as 4831, 4350, and 760. In the past few years, however, I have been using 50 grains of WC-852 surplus powder in Lake City brass and firing them with standard primers. Fifty grains works well for the M-1s, and the cast bullets are certainly leaving the muzzle in excess of 2,000 FPS. In bolt action rifles, I generaly use a slightly higher charge of powder. My #311466 cast bullet is a Loverin design with many lube grooves and lots of bearing surface. I use the same bullet, sized at .311, in my SKS rifles and get very good results.

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Old March 25, 2002, 09:54 PM   #7
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If you just want a plinker load, 20 grains of 2400 behind a 169-grain gas check gives about 1,900-2,000 ft/sec.

You can use 20 to 25 grains of equivalent burn-rate to 2400 behind almost anything, cast or jacketed, of any weight...

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Old March 27, 2002, 07:33 AM   #8
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Check out

'Cast Bullets' from the NRA. Great book. More info than you thought possible, whith special attention to .30 rifle bullets. Info about casting techniques, metallurgy, alloy selection, gas checks, wads, even paper-patching.
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Old March 27, 2002, 09:26 AM   #9
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badriver, Art's advise is pretty good. My favorite is the Ly 311291 over 21 gr of IMR 4227. You might want to take a look at this: http://www.castpics.net/RandD/load_data/load_data.htm sundog
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Old March 27, 2002, 05:19 PM   #10
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Thanks for the info guys.

Madison, I already have the Lee program, however it doesn't help me much with cast loads as I would have to use the same powder as in the jacketed loads. My interest is loading cast bullets with pistol powders such as Unique, 2400, Bullseye and Red Dot.

Jim W., I use the Lyman #47 for my reloading data. However, the cartridges work fine at the lowest velocity, as I work up I start getting pressure signs i.e., trouble opening the bolt. I have even had to "hammer" it open a couple of times, although the primers give no indications of high pressures. I used a fairly heavy taper crimp and I wonder if this could be increasing the pressure.

Art E., That sounds like a good load. Do you crimp your loads?

Sundog, The web site was interesting. I do not cast my own bullets, rather I have bought commerical ones instead. I also don't have any of the powders listed.
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Old March 27, 2002, 07:10 PM   #11
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Using Lyman's 311411, a ~173gr gas check - straight weight weights, but usually L's#2 alloy & 15grs unique.

I set the bullet out to just hard engrave the lands (about a .010" interference fit) - seems to matter in mine. & I do crimp this bullet (as opposed to everything else I've said on the subject )
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