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Old December 27, 1998, 05:21 PM   #1
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Hi! Because of a recent article in Soldier of Fortune I have a few questions:
I own a Mossberg 9200 "Persuader" ( name on the gun box not the gun itself ) semi auto shotgun with 18.5" mod. choke barrel
which looks identical to the new 9200A1 "Jungle Gun". My gun is approved for 3" shells but thats the only difference I can see- even the picture of the stripped A1 gun in Soldier of Fortune looks as if the parts were interchangeable.
Has anybody any experience with this gun? Does the introduction of the A1 version and its much higher price ( 627 $ ) indicate
that something is wrong with my gun? Is the standard version worth adding a few custom parts? Or should I sell it and purchase a 9200 A1 or Benelli?
Thanks for any input!

PS: As far as shotgun training concerns- do you know of any standard drills ( like a shotgun Mozambique or El Presidente )?
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Old December 28, 1998, 06:55 PM   #2
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Cato-

I'm afraid I don't have any experience with either the 9200 or 9200A1, but I think the price difference probably has more to do with the "Mil-Spec" reputation as a selling point, rather than with the 9200 being 'inferior'. What did the SOF article have to say that led you to your decision?

My run-of-the-mill 500 "Riot Gun" has always served it's intended purpose very well, and I don't feel cheated by not having the "Mil-Spec Tough" model 590 (although that extra round in the magazine used to make me a little jealous. Tac-Star Side Saddle to the rescue!).

And thanks for bringing up the subject of standard drills for the combat shotgun. I'd also like to know the particulars of such drills. What's the El Presidente?

Along similar lines, I've been researching my upcoming First Pistol Purchase, and have read a lot about malfunction clearance drills for auto-pistols. Does anyone know of any malfunctions and respective clearance techniques I should be aware of for a PUMP-ACTION shotgun? It's a Mossberg 500, if that makes any difference.

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Old December 28, 1998, 07:48 PM   #3
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The 9200 A1 is very different than the 9200. The A1 has a steel safety, steel trigger guard, heavy, stove-pipe barrel, and a different gas system altogether. And as you already mentioned, it can only take 2 3/4. The "Mil Spec" badge is no small achievement. It is well worth the extra money. The title not only means that the weapon can function under harsh operating conditions but that certain quality standards/systems were also put into place before the manufacture. These systems include lot tracability on components, incoming inspection, inspection audits on the line, etc.

The Persuader on the other hand has a plastic trigger guard, plastic safety, and a lighter barrel. It is basically Mossberg's sporting shotgun with a short barrel.

As for the shotgun drills, try to find Gabe Suarez' book: "The Tactical Shotgun". Or even Chuck Taylor's shotgun book. There are plenty of excercizes to be found in both.
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Old December 20, 2009, 07:15 PM   #4
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Re:9200A1 Mossberg 12 Guage Jungle Gun

After reading gentlemans inquiry about his 9200A1 Jungle Gun, Having owned several of these neat guns, I can add a little to the information available about this gun. Yes, the steel safety button and trigger assembly are two of the "differences" between the old 9200 Flight King and the 9200A1. From my experience most of the important parts that tend to break on any semi-automatic weapon, such as the extractor, ejector, firing pin and assorted springs ARE interchangable. The barrels are not, and here's a little additional info I noticed and researched with the help of the folks at Havelin Sales (a good Mossberg Parts source} Mossberg made a real limited number of REAL THICK-WALLED barrels that sort of look like 1" black iron plumbing pipe for these guns. Those extra thick 18" barrels were fitted with an improved cylinder screw in choke tube that fits flush in the end of the barrel. I owned a 9200A1 with one of these barrels, and unknowingly sold it- much to my regret. Havilin said that when they bought up the last of the 9200A1 barrels from Mossberg, there were about a dozen of those special order heavy walled barrels out of about a thousand standard thickness cylinder bore barrels. If you have a jungle gun with one of those barrels, needless to say its a treasure. Any of the ones I've owned could fire real fast without malfunction, as long as you were using full house 2-3/4" or 3" buckshot loads or slugs. They tended to hang up with light loads and some brands of birdshot. I read that they had to continuously fire several thousand rounds without a malfunction or failure to feed, to earn that military "A-1" designation at the end of the model number, and at the time, that they were the ONLY semi-auto shotgun tested that was able to pass that test. They're getting harder to find, and I've only seen a half dozen for sale on the web sites in the past two years. One guy wants to sell one on GB for $1200. New in Box. That's a little silly, but nowadays prices are hitting around the $400 dollar mark when I've seen them. Hope this information helps you other jungle gunners out there.
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Old February 16, 2010, 11:36 PM   #5
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I have one of these with the threaded end, it was the first 9200A1 I bought back in 1996.

The barrel is marked 9200A1, but I always figured it was some sort of fluke since I've since bought two more 9200A1s for spare parts, as well as four of the barrels from Havlin's, and none of them had the threaded-end on the barrel. I'd never seen anything on any vendor site or discussion board that indicated a threaded-choke on the JGs...
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Old February 17, 2010, 12:59 AM   #6
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590 barrel with chokes

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500 & 590 barrels and Drills Here,

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