November 7, 2012, 11:49 PM | #1 |
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CVA Bobcat...?s
Any reason I couldn't use 777 50/50 pellets in my LNIB .50 caliber bobcat I picked up today "used"? I know they say 209 inlines ONLY on them, but..... it has a musket nipple on it currently if that matters. Also does anyone know what the maximum charge to shoot regularly (and safely) with this would be?
I had a traditions that was similar to this one a long time ago and I normally shot 90grs of pyrodex RS behind a 280gr Remington lubed conicle. Would like to use pellets for convenience. Thinking of using T/C maxi-balls or 245gr powerbelts. |
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The maximum load should basically be the same as for the Traditions sidelock rifles of the same caliber. The maximum loads are listed on page 5 of the Traditions sidelock PDF manual which are 110 of 2F and 105 of 3F.
http://www.traditionsfirearms.com/cm...ock_manual.pdf Since a musket cap is not as powerful as a 209 primer, I don't know if it will work reliably with pellets in a sidelock or not. You're probably better off with loading loose powder only since Traditions doesn't recommend using them in sidelocks. And Hodgdon specifically warns against using any kind of booster charge of loose powder under the pellets probably because there's a chance that a delayed double ignition could create a bore obstruction resulting in barrel damage or an injurious rupture. Quote:
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Expectations ??
One of our teaching rifles, is a CVA Bobcat. I chose this one because it is still a sidelock (??). It's light for the younger folks, easy to clean and very serviceable, for this teaching effort. Even at that, we run into ignition problems, using loose 777. ...
Personally, I would not push this little guy too hard and keep to a modest hunting shot string, using loose powder. I'm sorry but I just could not put this much trust in this rifle. We have shot 70grns. of 777 and strictly round ball. Also knowing how the Maxi's and Mini's shoot, I would never shoot these in this rifle. .... Definition of Performance; Meeting or exceeding your expectations. There are many Bobcats out there and this is only MHO. I'm sure and hope that others in here could provide more support toward your goals ... Be Safe !!!
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Have a bad experience with maxi or minis? I used pre lubed maxis in the other one I had.....I remember them being dead accurate at 75 yards. What about modern sabots? plastic jacketed or un-jacketed like power belts? This this is going to be used on white tails.
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Cool...thank you for clearing that up for me. I "weighted and Balanced" the rifle a little to help with the mule kick on these little suckers. I don't remember noticing any difference with a maxi ball over a patched round ball with the traditions I had a ways back. But it did have a wood stock, rather than the uber light (well...previously light) synthetic one on the bobcat. So I can see that there could be a increase in recoil.
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