hey guys

1chig · December 17, 2010, 11:47 PM

hey guys, if you need to add solder to your pot what kind (brand) do you use?

snuffy · December 18, 2010, 12:11 AM

The reason to add solder is to get the tin. Look for lead free solder at a hardware store. Get the stuff that says right on the roll, 95% tin- 5% antimony. That's the best, it'll cost around 13-15 bucks for a half pound roll.

Another option is to get pure tin from roto metals.

http://www.rotometals.com/Tin-Ingot-s/27.htm

15 bucks per pound, is better than the same money for a half pound.

Ideal Tool · December 18, 2010, 12:14 AM

Hello, 1chig. Before the lead-free stuff came out, I always used 50-50 solder, it was easy to calculate..need one lb. tin?...buy two lbs. 50-50.

GP100man · December 18, 2010, 07:59 AM

I use rolled solder also at times to help fillout & to "tuffen up" alloys but for fillout more than 2% is not needed .Tin will only harden lead so far then stop.

Most wheel weights contain close to that to start with that`s why there highly sought after & bring premium prices ingotized , there ready to cast bhn 9-14 ready to go !!

Rite now I have a supply of isotope lead which is 95/2.5/2.5 & I add a 4oz. bit of babbit toa 20# pot to tuffen it up a bit so my 358156 HPs will hang together after openin + i can push it as herd as it needs be to make it open !

1chig · December 18, 2010, 10:19 AM

only solder i can find at lowes says it contains tin, copper and selinium and it doesnt give % on any. Will this work? Im new at casting bullets and there will be many more questions. Thats why i love this forum, i always get the help i need. Cant wait till i learn enough about this that maybie i might be able to help someone else out a little.

**Unclenick** · December 18, 2010, 03:44 PM

Yes. That's lead-free plumbing solder and should be about 95% tin. Just pretend it is pure tin. The selenium and copper help harden the alloy.

If in doubt, look up the solder's MSDS online. As long as it contains no zinc, you are good to go.

howlnmad · December 18, 2010, 03:58 PM

Will adding this to stick-on weights do any good?

m&p45acp10+1 · December 18, 2010, 04:42 PM

If you want the 95-5 "AKA" Plumber's Silver solder go to either a welding supply store, or a plumbing store.
As far as working with stiick on weights it will harden the alloy. I would advise if you have stick ons find someone that cast for muzzle loaders, and/or shot gun slugs. They will gladly trade even or better for clip on weights. The stick on ones tend to be close to pure lead.

GP100man · December 18, 2010, 05:09 PM

stik on are close to 40:1 alloy which is prefered by muzzle loaders & C&B revolver shooters .

As long as ya can put a dent in it with fingernail!!!

howlnmad · December 19, 2010, 10:48 AM

I have a ton of the stick-ons I am planning on using for my muzzle stuffer. I was curious if I could harden them up for pistol and rifle?

GP100man · December 19, 2010, 03:02 PM

I used stik ons 50/50 with wheel weights when I can for revolver casting

Rifle ya can water drop em & get by with em , just no super speed barn burner loads !

DiscoRacing · December 19, 2010, 04:11 PM

Quote:

super speed barn burner loads !

Hey GP...where do ya find the loading data for that??!!

GP100man · December 20, 2010, 07:51 AM

At the barn !!

I find it hard to go faster than 2500 in a rifle with lead , Now I know it`s possible with the rite alloy & lubes , but if your going to put that much alloys & $$ into a cast it`ll only be used for target , too brittle for hunting purposes.

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December 18, 2010, 07:59 AM	#4
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	I use rolled solder also at times to help fillout & to "tuffen up" alloys but for fillout more than 2% is not needed .Tin will only harden lead so far then stop. Most wheel weights contain close to that to start with that`s why there highly sought after & bring premium prices ingotized , there ready to cast bhn 9-14 ready to go !! Rite now I have a supply of isotope lead which is 95/2.5/2.5 & I add a 4oz. bit of babbit toa 20# pot to tuffen it up a bit so my 358156 HPs will hang together after openin + i can push it as herd as it needs be to make it open ! __________________ GP100man

December 18, 2010, 10:19 AM	#5
1chig Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2009 Location: central missouri Posts: 246	only solder i can find at lowes says it contains tin, copper and selinium and it doesnt give % on any. Will this work? Im new at casting bullets and there will be many more questions. Thats why i love this forum, i always get the help i need. Cant wait till i learn enough about this that maybie i might be able to help someone else out a little. __________________ those who anger you are those who control you!!!!

December 18, 2010, 03:44 PM	#6
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,060	Yes. That's lead-free plumbing solder and should be about 95% tin. Just pretend it is pure tin. The selenium and copper help harden the alloy. If in doubt, look up the solder's MSDS online. As long as it contains no zinc, you are good to go. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

December 18, 2010, 12:14 AM	#3
Ideal Tool Junior member Join Date: October 6, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,080	Hello, 1chig. Before the lead-free stuff came out, I always used 50-50 solder, it was easy to calculate..need one lb. tin?...buy two lbs. 50-50.

December 18, 2010, 03:58 PM	#7
howlnmad Senior Member Join Date: April 29, 2009 Location: Harriman Tn Posts: 424	Will adding this to stick-on weights do any good?

December 18, 2010, 04:42 PM	#8
m&p45acp10+1 Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2009 Location: Central Texas Posts: 3,930	If you want the 95-5 "AKA" Plumber's Silver solder go to either a welding supply store, or a plumbing store. As far as working with stiick on weights it will harden the alloy. I would advise if you have stick ons find someone that cast for muzzle loaders, and/or shot gun slugs. They will gladly trade even or better for clip on weights. The stick on ones tend to be close to pure lead. __________________ No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.

December 18, 2010, 05:09 PM	#9
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	stik on are close to 40:1 alloy which is prefered by muzzle loaders & C&B revolver shooters . As long as ya can put a dent in it with fingernail!!! __________________ GP100man

December 19, 2010, 10:48 AM	#10
howlnmad Senior Member Join Date: April 29, 2009 Location: Harriman Tn Posts: 424	I have a ton of the stick-ons I am planning on using for my muzzle stuffer. I was curious if I could harden them up for pistol and rifle?

December 19, 2010, 03:02 PM	#11
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	I used stik ons 50/50 with wheel weights when I can for revolver casting Rifle ya can water drop em & get by with em , just no super speed barn burner loads ! __________________ GP100man

December 20, 2010, 07:51 AM	#13
GP100man Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2007 Location: Tabor City , NC. Posts: 1,969	At the barn !! I find it hard to go faster than 2500 in a rifle with lead , Now I know it`s possible with the rite alloy & lubes , but if your going to put that much alloys & $$ into a cast it`ll only be used for target , too brittle for hunting purposes. __________________ GP100man

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