So, what was the reason behind the design the USFA zip gun? - Page 2

johnwilliamson062 · January 8, 2015, 12:42 PM

On their website they have a reliability upgrade kit listed. Fairly common for first gen guns to have a plethora of problems.

Double Naught Spy · January 8, 2015, 12:58 PM

Based on the Youtube vids, the gun still sucks after the upgrade...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT9eKNIhRKg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtbHZ5slhis NSFW (language)

The reliability kit just seems to be another way to get more money out of the people the scammed the first time, LOL.

Fishbed77 · January 8, 2015, 03:43 PM

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On their website they have a reliability upgrade kit listed. Fairly common for first gen guns to have a plethora of problems.

Only for manufacturers that fail to properly test their products.

I can think of many first gen designs that, while maybe not perfect, were at least reliable right out of the gate.

johnwilliamson062 · January 9, 2015, 02:55 PM

I can think of many "New Designs" that were baby steps away from old designs and went well. I can think of some that didn't.
I really can't think of all that many truly new designs that didn't have some sort of problem in the first generation.

claydoctor · January 10, 2015, 04:33 PM

The original concept was to attach it beneath an AR. Whether that would or would not require a tax stamp, I'm not sure . I do know nothing was mentioned about that at the time of its introduction .

slugchucker · January 10, 2015, 04:56 PM

When a 22LR won't do....http://www.knightarmco.com/portfolio/master-key/

Cheapshooter · January 10, 2015, 05:23 PM

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The original concept was to attach it beneath an AR

For what purpose???
Now maybe some sort of short barreled shotgun thingy. But that would be Class 3 for sure.

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Why mess around with a puny 22LR
When a 22LR won't do.

What did I miss? Is there something I didn't see in that catalog that wasn't just more AR accessories? Something pertaining to the USFA Zip?

slugchucker · January 10, 2015, 05:33 PM

"...maybe some sort of short barreled shotgun thingy." 12 gauge masterkey by knight's armory, my response to your post before you posted it.

peggysue · January 10, 2015, 06:58 PM

Why does it really matter?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3bOmey-BE

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slugchucker Member Join Date: March 30, 2014 Posts: 87	Why mess around with a puny 22LR When a 22LR won't do....http://www.knightarmco.com/portfolio/master-key/

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slugchucker Member Join Date: March 30, 2014 Posts: 87	cheapshooter "...maybe some sort of short barreled shotgun thingy." 12 gauge masterkey by knight's armory, my response to your post before you posted it. Last edited by slugchucker; January 10, 2015 at 05:39 PM.

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January 8, 2015, 12:42 PM	#26
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	On their website they have a reliability upgrade kit listed. Fairly common for first gen guns to have a plethora of problems.

January 9, 2015, 02:55 PM	#29
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I can think of many "New Designs" that were baby steps away from old designs and went well. I can think of some that didn't. I really can't think of all that many truly new designs that didn't have some sort of problem in the first generation.

January 10, 2015, 04:33 PM	#30
claydoctor Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 450	The original concept was to attach it beneath an AR. Whether that would or would not require a tax stamp, I'm not sure . I do know nothing was mentioned about that at the time of its introduction .

January 10, 2015, 06:58 PM	#34
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Why does it really matter? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny3bOmey-BE