Tula primers are shipped anvil up???

Marco Califo · September 8, 2014, 09:41 PM

Tula primers are shipped anvil up???
I bought 5000 Tula KVB-556M and opened the first tray. Nicely packaged and they all were oriented the same way. Just one problem.
The anvil side is up! My RCBS hand primer needs them anvil side up, but when I flip the tray into the primer they go the other way around: primer side down.
Yes, I know I need to get a primer flipping tray to fix this . . .
But, WHY do they package them that way?
Once properly oriented they are sliding right into my LC's. Nice solid hard cups, barely a mark from the ram.

serf 'rett · September 8, 2014, 11:06 PM

Does your RCBS hand primer have the concentric circles in the tray?

I dump the Tula's in and shake the tray until most of them flip over. I'll flip the last two or three over by hand.

I did try to save time by placing an empty tray over the new full tray and flipping, but it didn't work very well the several times I tried.

Marco Califo · September 8, 2014, 11:16 PM

Yes, the tray has the rings, but with the lid on they wont flip. I just turned 100 by finger because I did not want to shake the open tray (on my couch). I think I will order the RCBS square tray (#2). Do you shake that one?

serf 'rett · September 8, 2014, 11:28 PM

Nope, they won't flip with the lid on. Got to shake them without the lid. I place the tray on a flat surface, such as a table or bench. and hold my thumb over the end of the "spout" while I shake the tray. Will generally shake the tray in one direction, then spin the tray 90 degrees and shake more. The primers which didn't flip in the first round of shaking will often flip when shaken in a different direction. It's quicker than you think, once you get the hang of it.

I would not attempt doing this in my lap while sitting on the sofa

skizzums · September 9, 2014, 06:13 AM

most primers ship anvil up, that's just how they settle. you have to put them in the tray, put the lid on top, but leaving enough room so can flip, and gently roll them back and forth. I buy tula and CCI and Winchester and usually most if not all are anvil up. tulas case leaves enough rom so all of them flip up, but I never thought of it as an issue

F. Guffey · September 9, 2014, 06:36 AM

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But, WHY do they package them that way?

I do not know, is it possible they thought I was going to be the purchaser, I have an additional flip tray, the only way they can mess me up is if they alternate the primers, one up, the next one down.

Same for the large Federal box. I have a large Dillon flip tray, before that I cut the Federal slide cover to expose 25 primers at a time when loading the Lee auto hand primer.

F. Guffey

Don P · September 9, 2014, 06:45 AM

Why does Federal ship there primers sideways in the tray????

F. Guffey · September 9, 2014, 07:08 AM

I do not carry ammo to the range in zip-lock gags, I do not want to give a primer a chance to push off. If a primer pushes off in a tray when setting on its side it hits the other side of the tray, if the primer is packed in a box with the anvil up the anvil will push off and the primer cup will be pushed into the tray.

Why the big Federal box? I believe Federal used the big box to give R. Lee something to complain about, unintended consequence, users that could not manage to get the primers from the large box to the small Lee flip tray were the ones complaining.

F. Guffey

higgite · September 9, 2014, 07:46 AM

Use your primer tray lid instead of the primer tray itself to unload the primers from their original package. Then place the primer tray upside down on the lid and flip it right side up.

Grizz12 · September 9, 2014, 08:17 AM

I put the tray on top of the box, flip the box/tray together and then remove the box. Then I put the lid on the tray, flip over and remove the other side of the tray.

mdmtj · September 9, 2014, 08:46 AM

I'm on a Dillon 550. Primers packed anvil down is exactly what I need to use the primer pick-up tubes with the least fuss.

They can't please everyone. But with that said, how hard is it to flip them? Anvil down vs. anvil up - really doesn't matter to me. It really is a small matter, isn't it? If they are wrong side up, just flip them.

chiefr · September 9, 2014, 08:52 AM

Up, down, sideways, as long as I can find them and they go bang, does not matter to me.

schmellba99 · September 9, 2014, 11:05 AM

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Use your primer tray lid instead of the primer tray itself to unload the primers from their original package. Then place the primer tray upside down on the lid and flip it right side up.

This. Work smarter, not harder.

dickttx · September 9, 2014, 09:53 PM

I suppose the primer manufacturers should start taking custom orders--up, down or sideways.

FrankenMauser · September 10, 2014, 12:52 AM

So much talk about a non-issue.

Primer flip trays were invented for a reason.
...The same reason they're a recommended tool for any reloader.

Primers jumbled or wrong-side-up? Dump them in the flip tray and give them a shake.....

It's difficult. Really difficult.

September 8, 2014, 09:41 PM	#1
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Tula primers are shipped anvil up??? Tula primers are shipped anvil up??? I bought 5000 Tula KVB-556M and opened the first tray. Nicely packaged and they all were oriented the same way. Just one problem. The anvil side is up! My RCBS hand primer needs them anvil side up, but when I flip the tray into the primer they go the other way around: primer side down. Yes, I know I need to get a primer flipping tray to fix this . . . But, WHY do they package them that way? Once properly oriented they are sliding right into my LC's. Nice solid hard cups, barely a mark from the ram. __________________ ............

September 8, 2014, 11:16 PM	#3
Marco Califo Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2011 Location: LA (Greater Los Angeles Area) Posts: 2,598	Yes, the tray has the rings, but with the lid on they wont flip. I just turned 100 by finger because I did not want to shake the open tray (on my couch). I think I will order the RCBS square tray (#2). Do you shake that one? __________________ ............

September 8, 2014, 11:28 PM	#4
serf 'rett Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: Stuttgart, AR Posts: 1,569	Nope, they won't flip with the lid on. Got to shake them without the lid. I place the tray on a flat surface, such as a table or bench. and hold my thumb over the end of the "spout" while I shake the tray. Will generally shake the tray in one direction, then spin the tray 90 degrees and shake more. The primers which didn't flip in the first round of shaking will often flip when shaken in a different direction. It's quicker than you think, once you get the hang of it. I would not attempt doing this in my lap while sitting on the sofa __________________ A lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.

September 9, 2014, 06:13 AM	#5
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	most primers ship anvil up, that's just how they settle. you have to put them in the tray, put the lid on top, but leaving enough room so can flip, and gently roll them back and forth. I buy tula and CCI and Winchester and usually most if not all are anvil up. tulas case leaves enough rom so all of them flip up, but I never thought of it as an issue __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed

September 9, 2014, 06:45 AM	#7
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,187	Why does Federal ship there primers sideways in the tray???? __________________ *NRA Life Member, NRA Chief Range Safety Officer, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor,, USPSA & Steel Challange NROI Range Officer, ICORE Range Officer, ,MAG 40 Graduate* *As you are, I once was, As I am, You will be.*

September 8, 2014, 11:06 PM	#2
serf 'rett Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2009 Location: Stuttgart, AR Posts: 1,569	Does your RCBS hand primer have the concentric circles in the tray? I dump the Tula's in and shake the tray until most of them flip over. I'll flip the last two or three over by hand. I did try to save time by placing an empty tray over the new full tray and flipping, but it didn't work very well the several times I tried. __________________ A lack of planning on your part does not necessarily constitute an emergency on my part.

September 9, 2014, 07:08 AM	#8
F. Guffey Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Posts: 7,249	I do not carry ammo to the range in zip-lock gags, I do not want to give a primer a chance to push off. If a primer pushes off in a tray when setting on its side it hits the other side of the tray, if the primer is packed in a box with the anvil up the anvil will push off and the primer cup will be pushed into the tray. Why the big Federal box? I believe Federal used the big box to give R. Lee something to complain about, unintended consequence, users that could not manage to get the primers from the large box to the small Lee flip tray were the ones complaining. F. Guffey

September 9, 2014, 07:46 AM	#9
higgite Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2010 Posts: 1,025	Use your primer tray lid instead of the primer tray itself to unload the primers from their original package. Then place the primer tray upside down on the lid and flip it right side up.

September 9, 2014, 08:17 AM	#10
Grizz12 Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2012 Posts: 527	I put the tray on top of the box, flip the box/tray together and then remove the box. Then I put the lid on the tray, flip over and remove the other side of the tray.

September 9, 2014, 08:46 AM	#11
mdmtj Member Join Date: March 4, 2013 Posts: 80	I'm on a Dillon 550. Primers packed anvil down is exactly what I need to use the primer pick-up tubes with the least fuss. They can't please everyone. But with that said, how hard is it to flip them? Anvil down vs. anvil up - really doesn't matter to me. It really is a small matter, isn't it? If they are wrong side up, just flip them.

September 9, 2014, 08:52 AM	#12
chiefr Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Location: AR Posts: 1,401	Up, down, sideways, as long as I can find them and they go bang, does not matter to me.

September 9, 2014, 09:53 PM	#14
dickttx Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Location: Fort Worth Posts: 500	I suppose the primer manufacturers should start taking custom orders--up, down or sideways. __________________ Education teaches you the rules, experience teaches you the exceptions (Plagiarized from Claude Clay)

September 10, 2014, 12:52 AM	#15
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	So much talk about a non-issue. Primer flip trays were invented for a reason. ...The same reason they're a recommended tool for any reloader. Primers jumbled or wrong-side-up? Dump them in the flip tray and give them a shake..... It's difficult. Really difficult. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.