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December 7, 2012, 03:11 AM | #1 |
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Patches too large for bore?
So I have a bag full of cotton .270-.30 caliber patches, or so they say. The patches will not fit. I even got one stuck pretty well in my mosin-nagant a while back, not knowing they were supposed to be cut down. I got it out, thankfully. I mean if they wont fit a bore that is slightly above .30 caliber, I can't imagine it fitting in a .270
I'm using a hoppes #9 .30 caliber kit. The patches in question are just regular 2x2 cottons. How much would one cut them down to have them fit with a push-through jag? would 1x1 be too small? |
December 7, 2012, 03:15 AM | #2 |
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Try it till you find out. You've got the patches, jag & barrel.
Or use a slotted tip. Denis |
December 7, 2012, 04:44 AM | #3 |
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Dude. Cotton Patches? Cut em? slicem dicem push them beeatches through.
make em work they're just patches. |
December 7, 2012, 07:12 AM | #4 |
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Just cut them down a bit till they work. Don't over think it. Take one, cut a bit off until it works to your satisfaction.
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December 7, 2012, 07:54 AM | #5 |
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I don't buy patches anymore--I just buy those t-shirt cloth rags at Lowes and cut them to whatever sizes I need.
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December 7, 2012, 09:13 AM | #6 |
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First, you buy some sissors............
2x2 is 2 big for a .30. |
December 7, 2012, 11:15 AM | #7 |
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The last forty years, I've been using the GI-type 2x2 patches with a .22 stainless rod. No scissors needed for .30s. 1/4 of the 2x2 works fine for .22s.
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One size doesn't always fit all
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I have two gun working stations as well as two shooting kits. All are furnished with a pair of sissors. There are time when even though the patch may fit, I choose to make light contact during some oil applications. I am always cutting patches. ..... Be Safe !!!
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December 7, 2012, 02:06 PM | #9 |
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I use what ever I have and will fit . I use big patchs with small rod/end piece or a small patch with a large rod/end piece . The only time I have issue with the size of the patch is in my .22 barrels . I'll even wrap the patch around the bore brush and push it through the barrel . That works real well with shotguns .
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December 7, 2012, 04:55 PM | #10 |
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Most of my cleaning chores for 30 caliber rifles, are done with a 22 caliber cleaning rod for patches, and a 30 caliber rod for the bore brush. If you do not center the cleaning patch on the jag tip --- will therefore make it easier for the patch to go down the pipe.
For my 22 bores...I use a .17 caliber cleaning rod for the cotton flannel patches --- that I buy in square yards at Wallmart and trim them down with scissors --- along with a 22 rod for bore brush work. Last edited by Erno86; December 7, 2012 at 05:19 PM. |
December 7, 2012, 05:06 PM | #11 |
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I've had patches that were just "too thick", not too big for a .30 cal. At least on a round jag.
Because no-one seems to standardize on thickness I just keep a .270 jag tip handy for the really stubborn ones, or use a slotted tip.
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December 7, 2012, 08:27 PM | #12 |
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Moving the pierce of the jag off center of the patch makes it fit looser in the bore.
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December 8, 2012, 12:40 AM | #13 |
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You have to trial and error the size of the patch. Jags are different by manufacturer so you'll figure out what patch size works best with your bore.
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December 12, 2012, 03:53 PM | #14 |
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I use J. Dewey big patches - 2" Square "Oversize" .30-.35. I've been using them on my Garands , Springfields , Krags , Carbines and my Remington 700 308 and my Savage 112BVSS 300 Win Mag for over 30 years and never had a single issue with a stuck patch . GI patches are another story.
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December 12, 2012, 04:22 PM | #15 |
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I know how you feel. Had a 30 cal. patch jam in my Rem. 700 LTR 308 cal. to a point I had to cut the handle off my one piece Dewey rod and slowly pound it out. If the patch is listed from 270 - 30 Cal. it should work, but they don't. I now use a 1 1/4 square cotton patch listed for 223 & 6mm. With the 30 cal. Dewey rod & jag it works fine. I buy pre cut patches so I don't have to use sissors. One size don't fit all.
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December 12, 2012, 04:50 PM | #16 |
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Get someone to turn the jag down a few thousands.
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December 12, 2012, 07:40 PM | #17 |
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I suspect your slotted tip is too short for the patches you're using , or your rod is too large in diameter
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December 12, 2012, 08:34 PM | #18 |
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Turn the jag down?
Jeepers, just experiment till you find a patch size, a smaller jag size, or a different slotted tip that works. It's really not rocket science. I buy 2x2 patches, use as is or cut to fit whatever caliber needs cutting with whatever jag or slot I'm using. Covers .45-70 on down to .22s, and scissors are do-able by even coordination-challenged fumblefingers like me. Denis |
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My patches are tailor made.
All my patches are "tailor" made. There this old fat guy that sometimes, hangs around in my basement and cuts all my patches to fit just right, using a pair of scissors. .....
Cut to fit and; Be Safe !!!
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December 14, 2012, 11:58 AM | #20 |
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Turn the jag down? (Unless you own the equipment already...) Really? Buy a new for under $20 or cut the patches!
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December 15, 2012, 11:52 AM | #21 |
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I'd just patch them off center or use a smaller jag.
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December 15, 2012, 08:46 PM | #22 |
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What everybody else said, trial and error. I cut my patches from old t-shirts and boxer shorts.
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December 17, 2012, 09:15 AM | #23 |
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Answer to your question, cut them to 1 1/4, 1" would be OK. I don't like to jam my patches, makes a hard & sloppy cleaning.
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December 19, 2012, 12:26 AM | #24 |
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Buy an Otis kit and stop wasting your time!
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1.25"x1.25" is the perfect size when soaked with #9 using a jag that is .275 diameter and pushed through the boar with 15# of pressure applied at a constant rate. . . . . .
Are you kidding? Get some scissors and cut the darn patches until they fit. Screwing up a couple will cost atleast 1 cent.
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