Australian Disarm Technique - Page 2

C.R.Sam · September 2, 2001, 11:43 AM

As Captain Hoek points out.... nuttin in life comes with a warrenty card.

In the late 60s I had had a fair amount of unconventional training. Figured that with a lot of luck I could take a rifle or handgun away from front or back. A key requirement being that the person holding the gun has not made the decision to fire. Since in all probability I would be dead meat anyway I am sure that I would give it a try. If bg's reaction time slower than my action time I would have a pretty good shot of pullin it off.

My #2, who trained with me, walked into a situation where he was forced to try it......and was successfull. BG shot himself under the chin and expired from brain ventallation. Turned out well and was a correct decision. Bg had just shot another so was a proven shooter.

In the years hence I have drilled a bit. Bout four years ago I was challanged by an instructor twenty years my junior and a hundred pounds bigger. He was left handed and drew red gun on me holding it tight into his ribs. Gun clicked while pointed at his head. Suprised the hell out of both of us.

Then again recently I tried it with a stout man and a plastic pistol. Pistol broke apart just ahead of the trigger guard and it was still pointed at my chest. Lost that one big time.

Like the Cap'n says, no guarentees.......but worth a try.

Sam

Cheapo · September 6, 2001, 07:33 PM

Wow. That really makes one think, C.R.Sam.

Personally, I'd rather die trying than just die. Exellent points above about mere possibilities NOT being justification to abandon efforts to improve your own probabilities.

Stack the deck, friends. And don't forget sand in the eyes and liberal application of teeth if possible.

Quartus · September 7, 2001, 12:32 AM

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Personally, I'd rather die trying than just die.

Me too, but some would say the results are the same either way.

Some see a difference. It's called honor.

Spectre · September 7, 2001, 02:52 PM

Bah. With some of us, it's pure mulishness!

Quartus · September 7, 2001, 11:24 PM

C.R.Sam · September 9, 2001, 10:03 AM

Not honor so much as choosing the lesser of two very bad choices. Darn near always a choice, just sometimes hard to choose. Kinda like bein up to your chin and havin somebody throw a bucket of @@@@ at you....do you duck ?

Sam

September 6, 2001, 07:33 PM	#27
Cheapo Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 1998 Posts: 986	Wow. That really makes one think, C.R.Sam. Personally, I'd rather die trying than just die. Exellent points above about mere possibilities NOT being justification to abandon efforts to improve your own probabilities. Stack the deck, friends. And don't forget sand in the eyes and liberal application of teeth if possible. __________________ Let us never forget that the only legitimate source of government power is the citizens. If WE cannot exercise a certain power, we cannot grant it to the state.

September 7, 2001, 02:52 PM	#29
Spectre Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 23, 1998 Location: ATL Posts: 3,277	Bah. With some of us, it's pure mulishness! __________________ John Wandering Thoughts

September 7, 2001, 11:24 PM	#30
Quartus Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,823	__________________ . Better to know what you don't know than to think you know what you don't know.

September 2, 2001, 11:43 AM	#26
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	As Captain Hoek points out.... nuttin in life comes with a warrenty card. In the late 60s I had had a fair amount of unconventional training. Figured that with a lot of luck I could take a rifle or handgun away from front or back. A key requirement being that the person holding the gun has not made the decision to fire. Since in all probability I would be dead meat anyway I am sure that I would give it a try. If bg's reaction time slower than my action time I would have a pretty good shot of pullin it off. My #2, who trained with me, walked into a situation where he was forced to try it......and was successfull. BG shot himself under the chin and expired from brain ventallation. Turned out well and was a correct decision. Bg had just shot another so was a proven shooter. In the years hence I have drilled a bit. Bout four years ago I was challanged by an instructor twenty years my junior and a hundred pounds bigger. He was left handed and drew red gun on me holding it tight into his ribs. Gun clicked while pointed at his head. Suprised the hell out of both of us. Then again recently I tried it with a stout man and a plastic pistol. Pistol broke apart just ahead of the trigger guard and it was still pointed at my chest. Lost that one big time. Like the Cap'n says, no guarentees.......but worth a try. Sam

September 9, 2001, 10:03 AM	#31
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Not honor so much as choosing the lesser of two very bad choices. Darn near always a choice, just sometimes hard to choose. Kinda like bein up to your chin and havin somebody throw a bucket of @@@@ at you....do you duck ? Sam