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April 4, 2013, 11:19 AM | #26 |
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The arson thing is one topic I actually found interesting when I took my CCW here in KY.
No, the building does not have to be occupied. This was clarified in my class...if someone is setting fire to your storage building, garage, whatever--you are legally justified to shoot them. I don't think I would, but it is in the books! |
April 4, 2013, 03:05 PM | #27 |
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Almost like the MS law on in-vehicle firearms (basically yes, loaded, no permit, and anywhere in the vehicle). I have a small locking gun box cabled to my car in my car to allow me to secure the firearm when I am not in the car with it (by "secure" I do not mean "safe from an 800 pound gorilla with 3 foot bolt cutters and an afternoon to work on it").
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April 4, 2013, 07:25 PM | #28 | |
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I have not gone through this thread to review everything said about Kentucky law. It was started before I was a member here. |
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April 7, 2013, 02:37 AM | #30 |
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According to the KRS, it has to be your property though. I didn't believe it until I looked it up for myself.
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April 7, 2013, 04:57 PM | #31 | |
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Any fire powerful enough to burn down even a small shed could create sparks and cinders that could settle onto the property owners house or even neighboring houses. It is no laughing matter. Anyone who has seen fires get out of control can give testimony to this. Arson is a way to deprive me of my refuge no matter what part of property is lit. Just as well as if an unarmed person broke into my home in an attempt to drive or drag me from my home, which is also grounds for deadly force. In Kentucky the law is very clear on these issues. On the no retreat laws I would not be so sure how protective those laws are as they have not been put to the test enough to see whether and to what extent they can protect someone from prosecution or lawsuit. In many states Arson is almost as bad as murder. |
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Come and Take it --
We are talking at cross purposes. You'll notice the post I was referring to was a question about shooting someone for stealing. Arson was not the topic. You are correct that deadly force may be used to prevent arson under certain circumstances: Quote:
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April 7, 2013, 08:36 PM | #33 | |
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I had always been of the understanding your life or others has to in danger or the castle doctrine law to be able to use potential deadly force. Maybe in some smaller towns its Who you know? |
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April 8, 2013, 07:51 AM | #35 |
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I agree spats, I wouldn't think LE could'nt shoot either legally in that situation. They could Say Halt or I'll shoot!, but a shot to the back I don't think would hold up in court. I've learned that stories get started, then spread with a little more added to them each time told, hahah.
Stealing my property , I would feel like shooting, or beat the crap out of them, but I'd never pull the trigger over possessions. Although here in SE KY some would without hesitation. . |
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I would point out for the 23,586th time that one should only use lethal force in response to a life-threatening situation, regardless of local statute. It's one thing to use force against someone trying to torch my house while I'm in it, but if they're torching a storage shed, I'd think very carefully about that. Liberty is built on the sanctity of personal property, but a jury may not see it that way when I'm on the stand for manslaughter or worse.
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April 8, 2013, 08:12 PM | #37 |
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GaryCw -- What the police supposedly said is an absolutely wrong statement of Kentucky law. Who knows if the local grand jury would indict.
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April 8, 2013, 10:20 PM | #38 |
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I would have to say that's correct. Not lawful to shoot a thief. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the police told him is was ok either. Would they admit it in court? No. Would it make it to court? Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes it's who you know or don't know. Some of the outlying jurisdictions still have constables. I'm not even sure if its a full time position?
I CC 95% of the time and I would not pull my weapon in a physical confrontation or a even a robbery hold up, car jacking etc. UNLESS I felt my life was in danger or someone I was with. If someone held you up with a gun, you're most likely not going to be able to pull yours till they're leaving. However if I do pull my gun, someone's getting shot. |
April 9, 2013, 03:32 PM | #39 |
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Moved here from W.V. a year and a half ago. This state has some of the strongest pro-gun laws in the nation. I love my adopted state, very proud to be a Kentuckian.
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April 9, 2013, 06:35 PM | #40 |
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Can we move NJ into Kentucky?
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