Carbide rifle dies

45auto45 · April 20, 2007, 03:19 PM

Who else beside Dillon makes them?? Dillon is a full length small base carbide die sizer, but at $110.00. Just wondering if someone else makes them for a little less. If not, guess I got to spend it!!

brickeyee · April 20, 2007, 03:27 PM

They are not really worth the $$ since you still MUST lube the cases.
The large contact area betwen die and case in a taered rifle cartridge will stick even in carbide.
Carbide works on straight wall rounds since the ring is short and is only touching a fraction of the case at a time.

T. O'Heir · April 20, 2007, 11:55 PM

Nobody that I've ever seen. Lee makes their 'collet' dies but they're really just neck sizing dies.

Number 6 · April 21, 2007, 09:09 AM

Yes, the Dillon dies are expen$ive.

Yes, you still need to lube the cases, albeit not as much.

That said, if you can afford the Dillon dies, you will find it takes a lot less lube and effort to resize and your arm will appreciate it!

I now use the carbide die in a Rockchucker to resize, then I take those cases and run them through the 550 with the standard die in the first station. You have to place the cases at #1 anyway and the die there makes sure the cases are properly placed before going into the powder die.

arkie2 · April 21, 2007, 11:26 AM

Since I only use my brass in my rifle I neck resize. It saves a lot of time and you don't need to lube.

45auto45 · April 21, 2007, 06:02 PM

Being this brass is used in semi-autos, I need to full length size. Thanks to all who responded, now talk me into which way to go!!!

T. O'Heir · April 22, 2007, 01:29 AM

Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss.

RERICK · April 22, 2007, 07:44 AM

You might want to take a look at the RCBS X-DIE. It was developed for use in semi auto's. I bought one and it works well. It is suppose to limit the need for constant trimming and sizes a little different for semi autos. I would love to see someone develop a carbide die for rifle that you don't need to lube. I'm sure it could be done.

cheygriz · April 22, 2007, 10:36 AM

If you do a lot of reloading, the Dillon dies are worth it. And you can use Dillon spray lube with them.

45auto45 · April 23, 2007, 10:31 AM

"T. O'Heir
Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss."

I now use RCBS full length dies, but they aren't the small base dies. I will have to get another die! I will have ti investigate the X die as I have brass on the table awaiting my attention!!

April 21, 2007, 06:02 PM	#6
45auto45 Member Join Date: April 1, 2007 Location: Girly Man!!!! Posts: 38	Being this brass is used in semi-autos, I need to full length size. Thanks to all who responded, now talk me into which way to go!!! __________________ The road to hell is paved with Democraps!

April 22, 2007, 10:36 AM	#9
cheygriz Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2002 Location: high up in the rockies Posts: 2,289	If you do a lot of reloading, the Dillon dies are worth it. And you can use Dillon spray lube with them. __________________ If you think a mighty military force is expensive, wait 'til you see what a weak one costs.

April 23, 2007, 10:31 AM	#10
45auto45 Member Join Date: April 1, 2007 Location: Girly Man!!!! Posts: 38	"T. O'Heir Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss." I now use RCBS full length dies, but they aren't the small base dies. I will have to get another die! I will have ti investigate the X die as I have brass on the table awaiting my attention!! __________________ The road to hell is paved with Democraps!

April 20, 2007, 03:19 PM	#1
45auto45 Member Join Date: April 1, 2007 Location: Girly Man!!!! Posts: 38	Carbide rifle dies Who else beside Dillon makes them?? Dillon is a full length small base carbide die sizer, but at $110.00. Just wondering if someone else makes them for a little less. If not, guess I got to spend it!! __________________ The road to hell is paved with Democraps!

April 20, 2007, 03:27 PM	#2
brickeyee Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2004 Posts: 3,351	They are not really worth the $$ since you still MUST lube the cases. The large contact area betwen die and case in a taered rifle cartridge will stick even in carbide. Carbide works on straight wall rounds since the ring is short and is only touching a fraction of the case at a time.

April 20, 2007, 11:55 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Nobody that I've ever seen. Lee makes their 'collet' dies but they're really just neck sizing dies.

April 21, 2007, 09:09 AM	#4
Number 6 Junior member Join Date: October 3, 2002 Posts: 919	Yes, the Dillon dies are expen$ive. Yes, you still need to lube the cases, albeit not as much. That said, if you can afford the Dillon dies, you will find it takes a lot less lube and effort to resize and your arm will appreciate it! I now use the carbide die in a Rockchucker to resize, then I take those cases and run them through the 550 with the standard die in the first station. You have to place the cases at #1 anyway and the die there makes sure the cases are properly placed before going into the powder die.

April 21, 2007, 11:26 AM	#5
arkie2 Senior Member Join Date: September 3, 2006 Posts: 475	Since I only use my brass in my rifle I neck resize. It saves a lot of time and you don't need to lube.

April 22, 2007, 01:29 AM	#7
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Just use a regular set of full length dies. The RCBS set I've been using for 30 some years in .308 and .30-06 work just fine. My .30-06 brass gets used in my M-1 and 1903A4 with no fuss.

April 22, 2007, 07:44 AM	#8
RERICK Junior member Join Date: July 9, 2005 Posts: 369	You might want to take a look at the RCBS X-DIE. It was developed for use in semi auto's. I bought one and it works well. It is suppose to limit the need for constant trimming and sizes a little different for semi autos. I would love to see someone develop a carbide die for rifle that you don't need to lube. I'm sure it could be done.