Internal Error?

DC · October 19, 1999, 03:11 PM

about 30% of the time lately (last week or so) I get the following error message. It has also started occurring when I access Bladeforums too, though not as often.

"Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your
request.

Please contact the server administrator, [email protected] and inform them "of the time
the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

Morgan · October 19, 1999, 03:56 PM

I've been seeing these off and on, with probably four or five today. I'm seeing "500 internal server" errors. I've just hit "reload" (hehe - tac relaod? speed reload?) and the page came up.

. · October 19, 1999, 05:28 PM

I'm getting them both at home and work (different systems).

The website won't come up (Can't get page). Then, after variable # of retries, it finally comes up.

Then, I get the same message going into a forum summary page, into threads, and even when attempting to view folks' profiles.

This is general enough in nature to require a serious LOOK-SEE & FIX by our esteemed host SYSOP & the SW Bug Guru.

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Mykl
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"If you really want to know what's going on;
then, you have to follow the money trail."
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[This message has been edited by Mykl (edited October 19, 1999).]

**Rich Lucibella** · October 19, 1999, 11:29 PM

I'll email Spark on this.
Rich

George Hill · October 20, 1999, 03:43 AM

Often times when I am seeing this - on other sites as well - www.cisco.com 's net commerce sites... what we are having is a too many users trying to access at the same time.
It's all about bandwidth...

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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

[email protected] · October 20, 1999, 12:44 PM

George hit it on the head.

BladeForums.com and TheFiringLine are starting to generate so much traffic that I'm going to have to recompile the server kernel to accomodate them both.

Currently the settings are at 100 or so users can connect at the same time, it's looking like I'm going to have to upgrade that even higher.

If you get too much traffic, the server can't respond to all the .cgi requests at the same time. I could go into a discourse about this, but the short story is that this software wasn't built to handle quite this much traffic and it generates a lot of processes (posting, searching, etc etc) that wind up tying up the server, causing these errors. Recompiling the kernel should have some effect. Hopefully UBB Enterprise edition is going to be out soon, and that should take care of this problem.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com
www.bladeforums.com

Jason Demond · October 20, 1999, 01:14 PM

Yeah but I also get it at Glock talk and ar15.com

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ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!"

General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944
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http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html

EQUALIZER · October 20, 1999, 04:08 PM

Yeah, I get it too.

I get it especially at netscape when sending email. Boy its sure is frustration to spend a bunch of time writing a letter and correcting spelling, only to have it deleated. I want to start putting stuff on disc and then mailing it.

Q: Can anyone tell me how to do this?

Q: Can anyone tell me how to attach url forum links here to my threads? It would save a lot of time repeating myself for references.

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"But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip; and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." -Jesus Christ (Luke 22:36, see John 3:15-18)

DC · October 20, 1999, 09:09 PM

Kimber...
AR15 and Glocktalk use the same UBB software....they are too popular as well

Equalizer...

go to www.tucows.com.....then go to mail utilities...download Free Agent..a stand alone mail utility...you will still be able to use Netscape Mozilla mail...but why?

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

oberkommando · October 23, 1999, 01:35 AM

Never have any on these error's, but them again I don't bring a knife to a gunfight, hehehe.

I'm usually on at 2am EST so traffic is probably the problem, see time for this response.

I think you guy's are doing a great job.

Jason Demond · October 23, 1999, 12:09 PM

I have found on my computer that I get the Internal Server Error if I scroll down the page before it's fully loaded. Never fails.

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ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!"

General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944
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http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html

Long Path · October 27, 1999, 08:31 PM

They've gotten TERRIBLE, today-- higher traffic, I guess. It's not such a problem when I log on from work or at school (LAN, don'tcha know

), but it SUCKS when you're running a 33.6 kb modem on bad telephone lines that never seem to give you even that. Waiting for an error 500 to load is maddening.

Isn't it great how the people (like me)who contribute NOTHING to the upkeep to this system and indeed contribute to the traffic problems can always find something to complain about it?

**Rich Lucibella** · October 27, 1999, 08:57 PM

The Late afternoon problems were due to my meddling. A long overdue hack of the software to properly display Mod Websites.

Sorry for the pain. It's over now.
However, I'm still getting the original errors.
Rich

Dennis · October 27, 1999, 09:53 PM

Kimber Man,
When I was running Internet Explorer 4 (point something) I had the same problem you described. I upgrade to 5 (point something) from Microsoft dot com (free) and the problem just went away.

YMMV, of course.

Bruce from West Oz · October 28, 1999, 08:32 AM

I've had four "Internal Error" messages last night and tonight (Thurs p.m. Australian WST).

Just thought you'd like to know.

B

PS: Around about when it happens, it can take up to 3 minutes for a response from the TFL site to "reply" to my computer's request.

Jason Demond · October 28, 1999, 12:08 PM

Dennis-
It's IE5 thats doing it.

I think I will delete it from my system and download it over again.

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ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!"

General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944
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http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html

[This message has been edited by Kimber Man (edited October 28, 1999).]

DC · October 28, 1999, 09:33 PM

More than 60% today and when it works its slower than molasses.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

Bruce in West Oz · October 29, 1999, 02:58 AM

Only able to get in about 1 in 10 tries today.

As DC noted, when it does get through, it's real slow. IE 4.5 on a PowerPC Mac.

B

**Rich Lucibella** · October 29, 1999, 09:12 AM

The problems are occurring on both sites hosted by the Server. Unfortunately, Spark is out of pocket (traveling) 'till tonight.

I hope for a fix over the weekend.
Rich

dZ · October 29, 1999, 01:16 PM

i see we have over 2700 registered users...

how many unique IP address hit the site per day?
there has to be 10 readers to every poster for this level of service denial

dZ

TheBluesMan · October 29, 1999, 02:51 PM

This is the first time in two days I've been able to even get this far into the site. I use Netscape on a PC (T1/LAN) at work and IE3 on a Mac (56.6) at home and they have both performed the same way lately. Incredibly slow, if at all.

I feel like a junkie Rich; you got me hooked, now you're taking it away. I'll do anything man, please, I gotta get a fix soon or I don't know what I'm gonna do!

I'll even pay you double what I normally do, just let me get back under that monkey.

No signature quotes here for me; trying to conserve bandwidth and all, a simple RKBA will have to do.

**Rich Lucibella** · October 29, 1999, 11:09 PM

TBM-
As I said to a respected Moderator earlier today:
"We Fe-e-e-l your pain, man. Breathe In. Breathe Out."
There. Isn't that better? This is way beyond my talents and geographic reach. I suspect it is not the software, as the UBB Discussion Forums don't seem to be screaming in pain.

My sights are on the Server, 300 miles away. Even if I could get to it, there ain't much this Unix-NonJunky might do...except with a prybar!

We all need to sit tight and wait for Spark's return and attention.
Rich

Dennis · October 29, 1999, 11:16 PM

Kimber Man,
Sorry, guy. I shot my whole load of "computer expertise" on that one suggestion. I was hoping for a 12 ga hi-brass result from from a .22 rimfire shotshell I guess!

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All Administrators,

Okay, okay. So I went ballistic yesterday morning with the e-mail bit. But at least I gave you facts, right? Okay? I mean I tried, huh? Maybe? (whimper)

JJB · October 30, 1999, 01:41 AM

On 10/28 was on for about 2 hours. In that time I scored the INTERNAL SERVER ERROR at least a dozen times.

Today I've been on since about 2300 on 10/29. Its now 0240 on 10/30. I have not had one dreaded INTERNAL SERVER ERROR so far. "Knock on organic fiber structural materials". Hvae noted some wierdly inconsistent variables in the speed key strokes register, sometimes almost faster than I can type, sometimes rather slow. Do we have a new problem?

Whatever, today's session was much better than what I ran into on Thursday.

Jim in IN

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-- TANSTAAFL

[This message has been edited by JJB (edited October 30, 1999).]

George Hill · October 30, 1999, 03:51 AM

Dennis, I feel YOUR PAIN...
I have shot of my mouth too...
At least you didn't put your foot in yours!
My new motto:
Think twice - Post once.

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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud
RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

October 19, 1999, 03:11 PM	#1
DC Moderator Emeritus Join Date: September 30, 1998 Location: Calif Posts: 4,229	about 30% of the time lately (last week or so) I get the following error message. It has also started occurring when I access Bladeforums too, though not as often. "Internal Server Error The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request. Please contact the server administrator, [email protected] and inform them "of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error ------------------ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

October 19, 1999, 03:56 PM	#2
Morgan Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1998 Posts: 945	I've been seeing these off and on, with probably four or five today. I'm seeing "500 internal server" errors. I've just hit "reload" (hehe - tac relaod? speed reload?) and the page came up.

October 19, 1999, 05:28 PM	#3
. Senior Member Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: My wife's house... Posts: 2,659	I'm getting them both at home and work (different systems). The website won't come up (Can't get page). Then, after variable # of retries, it finally comes up. Then, I get the same message going into a forum summary page, into threads, and even when attempting to view folks' profiles. This is general enough in nature to require a serious LOOK-SEE & FIX by our esteemed host SYSOP & the SW Bug Guru. ------------------ Mykl ~~~~~ "If you really want to know what's going on; then, you have to follow the money trail." $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [This message has been edited by Mykl (edited October 19, 1999).]

October 19, 1999, 11:29 PM	#4
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	I'll email Spark on this. Rich

October 20, 1999, 03:43 AM	#5
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	Often times when I am seeing this - on other sites as well - www.cisco.com 's net commerce sites... what we are having is a too many users trying to access at the same time. It's all about bandwidth... ------------------ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE

October 20, 1999, 12:44 PM	#6
[email protected] Wise Guy Join Date: October 10, 1998 Posts: 665	George hit it on the head. BladeForums.com and TheFiringLine are starting to generate so much traffic that I'm going to have to recompile the server kernel to accomodate them both. Currently the settings are at 100 or so users can connect at the same time, it's looking like I'm going to have to upgrade that even higher. If you get too much traffic, the server can't respond to all the .cgi requests at the same time. I could go into a discourse about this, but the short story is that this software wasn't built to handle quite this much traffic and it generates a lot of processes (posting, searching, etc etc) that wind up tying up the server, causing these errors. Recompiling the kernel should have some effect. Hopefully UBB Enterprise edition is going to be out soon, and that should take care of this problem. Spark ------------------ Kevin Jon Schlossberg SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com www.bladeforums.com

October 20, 1999, 01:14 PM	#7
Jason Demond Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 1999 Location: Mivonks, Michigan Posts: 1,846	Yeah but I also get it at Glock talk and ar15.com ------------------ ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!" General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944 ------------------------ http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html

October 20, 1999, 04:08 PM	#8
EQUALIZER Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 1999 Posts: 657	Yeah, I get it too. I get it especially at netscape when sending email. Boy its sure is frustration to spend a bunch of time writing a letter and correcting spelling, only to have it deleated. I want to start putting stuff on disc and then mailing it. Q: Can anyone tell me how to do this? Q: Can anyone tell me how to attach url forum links here to my threads? It would save a lot of time repeating myself for references. ------------------ "But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip; and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one." -Jesus Christ (Luke 22:36, see John 3:15-18)

October 20, 1999, 09:09 PM	#9
DC Moderator Emeritus Join Date: September 30, 1998 Location: Calif Posts: 4,229	Kimber... AR15 and Glocktalk use the same UBB software....they are too popular as well Equalizer... go to www.tucows.com.....then go to mail utilities...download Free Agent..a stand alone mail utility...you will still be able to use Netscape Mozilla mail...but why? ------------------ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

October 23, 1999, 01:35 AM	#10
oberkommando Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 1999 Posts: 1,158	Never have any on these error's, but them again I don't bring a knife to a gunfight, hehehe. I'm usually on at 2am EST so traffic is probably the problem, see time for this response. I think you guy's are doing a great job.

October 23, 1999, 12:09 PM	#11
Jason Demond Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 1999 Location: Mivonks, Michigan Posts: 1,846	I have found on my computer that I get the Internal Server Error if I scroll down the page before it's fully loaded. Never fails. ------------------ ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!" General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944 ------------------------ http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html

October 27, 1999, 08:31 PM	#12
Long Path Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: N. Texas Posts: 5,899	They've gotten TERRIBLE, today-- higher traffic, I guess. It's not such a problem when I log on from work or at school (LAN, don'tcha know ), but it SUCKS when you're running a 33.6 kb modem on bad telephone lines that never seem to give you even that. Waiting for an error 500 to load is maddening. Isn't it great how the people (like me)who contribute NOTHING to the upkeep to this system and indeed contribute to the traffic problems can always find something to complain about it?

October 27, 1999, 08:57 PM	#13
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	The Late afternoon problems were due to my meddling. A long overdue hack of the software to properly display Mod Websites. Sorry for the pain. It's over now. However, I'm still getting the original errors. Rich

October 27, 1999, 09:53 PM	#14
Dennis Staff Emeritus Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	Kimber Man, When I was running Internet Explorer 4 (point something) I had the same problem you described. I upgrade to 5 (point something) from Microsoft dot com (free) and the problem just went away. YMMV, of course.

October 28, 1999, 08:32 AM	#15
Bruce from West Oz Senior Member Join Date: February 26, 1999 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 274	I've had four "Internal Error" messages last night and tonight (Thurs p.m. Australian WST). Just thought you'd like to know. B PS: Around about when it happens, it can take up to 3 minutes for a response from the TFL site to "reply" to my computer's request.

October 28, 1999, 12:08 PM	#16
Jason Demond Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 1999 Location: Mivonks, Michigan Posts: 1,846	Dennis- It's IE5 thats doing it. I think I will delete it from my system and download it over again. ------------------ ACCEPT NOTHING LESS THAN FULL VICTORY!" General Dwight D. Eisenhower-- June 6,1944 ------------------------ http://www.homestead.com/gunrights/G...Gunrights.html [This message has been edited by Kimber Man (edited October 28, 1999).]

October 28, 1999, 09:33 PM	#17
DC Moderator Emeritus Join Date: September 30, 1998 Location: Calif Posts: 4,229	More than 60% today and when it works its slower than molasses. ------------------ "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!

October 29, 1999, 02:58 AM	#18
Bruce in West Oz Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 1999 Location: Western Australia Posts: 995	Only able to get in about 1 in 10 tries today. As DC noted, when it does get through, it's real slow. IE 4.5 on a PowerPC Mac. B

October 29, 1999, 09:12 AM	#19
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	The problems are occurring on both sites hosted by the Server. Unfortunately, Spark is out of pocket (traveling) 'till tonight. I hope for a fix over the weekend. Rich

October 29, 1999, 01:16 PM	#20
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	i see we have over 2700 registered users... how many unique IP address hit the site per day? there has to be 10 readers to every poster for this level of service denial dZ

October 29, 1999, 02:51 PM	#21
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	This is the first time in two days I've been able to even get this far into the site. I use Netscape on a PC (T1/LAN) at work and IE3 on a Mac (56.6) at home and they have both performed the same way lately. Incredibly slow, if at all. I feel like a junkie Rich; you got me hooked, now you're taking it away. I'll do anything man, please, I gotta get a fix soon or I don't know what I'm gonna do! I'll even pay you double what I normally do, just let me get back under that monkey. No signature quotes here for me; trying to conserve bandwidth and all, a simple RKBA will have to do.

October 29, 1999, 11:09 PM	#22
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	TBM- As I said to a respected Moderator earlier today: "We Fe-e-e-l your pain, man. Breathe In. Breathe Out." There. Isn't that better? This is way beyond my talents and geographic reach. I suspect it is not the software, as the UBB Discussion Forums don't seem to be screaming in pain. My sights are on the Server, 300 miles away. Even if I could get to it, there ain't much this Unix-NonJunky might do...except with a prybar! We all need to sit tight and wait for Spark's return and attention. Rich

October 29, 1999, 11:16 PM	#23
Dennis Staff Emeritus Join Date: November 23, 1998 Location: a small forest in Texas Posts: 7,079	Kimber Man, Sorry, guy. I shot my whole load of "computer expertise" on that one suggestion. I was hoping for a 12 ga hi-brass result from from a .22 rimfire shotshell I guess! ------- All Administrators, Okay, okay. So I went ballistic yesterday morning with the e-mail bit. But at least I gave you facts, right? Okay? I mean I tried, huh? Maybe? (whimper)

October 30, 1999, 01:41 AM	#24
JJB Member Join Date: October 19, 1998 Location: Logansport, IN Posts: 87	On 10/28 was on for about 2 hours. In that time I scored the INTERNAL SERVER ERROR at least a dozen times. Today I've been on since about 2300 on 10/29. Its now 0240 on 10/30. I have not had one dreaded INTERNAL SERVER ERROR so far. "Knock on organic fiber structural materials". Hvae noted some wierdly inconsistent variables in the speed key strokes register, sometimes almost faster than I can type, sometimes rather slow. Do we have a new problem? Whatever, today's session was much better than what I ran into on Thursday. Jim in IN ------------------ -- TANSTAAFL [This message has been edited by JJB (edited October 30, 1999).]

October 30, 1999, 03:51 AM	#25
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	Dennis, I feel YOUR PAIN... I have shot of my mouth too... At least you didn't put your foot in yours! My new motto: Think twice - Post once. ------------------ "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE