"You have a right to defend yourself."

Hook686 · April 16, 2016, 02:16 AM

I just listened to the debate and heard Hillary Clinton talking about Isreal in response to Sanders' comment about the Palestinians, state, 'You have the right to defend yourself'. I wonder why that does not apply to the citizens of the United States.

SailingOnBy · April 16, 2016, 02:27 AM

Well... because it's not really the same thing to be fair.

The issue at hand there is one entity actively attacking another, and the other responding. It's not a situation where Israel is arming themselves for the possibility of someday being attacked.

Also, to be fair, I doubt you'd hear even Hillary say that we don't have the right to defend ourselves. She might disagree with what and how you should be able to, but the idea that she's suggesting Israel can defend themselves but US citizens can not is somewhat ludicrous and quite the straw man.

**Frank Ettin** · April 16, 2016, 05:13 AM

Off topic -- politics and not firearm related.

April 16, 2016, 02:16 AM	#1
Hook686 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: USA The Great State of California Posts: 2,090	"You have a right to defend yourself." I just listened to the debate and heard Hillary Clinton talking about Isreal in response to Sanders' comment about the Palestinians, state, 'You have the right to defend yourself'. I wonder why that does not apply to the citizens of the United States. __________________ Hook686 When the number of people in institutions reaches 51%, we change sides.

April 16, 2016, 05:13 AM	#3
Frank Ettin Staff Join Date: November 23, 2005 Location: California - San Francisco Posts: 9,471	Off topic -- politics and not firearm related. __________________ "It is long been a principle of ours that one is no more armed because he has possession of a firearm than he is a musician because he owns a piano. There is no point in having a gun if you are not capable of using it skillfully." -- Jeff Cooper

April 16, 2016, 02:27 AM	#2
SailingOnBy Member Join Date: January 30, 2016 Location: Western Washington Posts: 28	Well... because it's not really the same thing to be fair. The issue at hand there is one entity actively attacking another, and the other responding. It's not a situation where Israel is arming themselves for the possibility of someday being attacked. Also, to be fair, I doubt you'd hear even Hillary say that we don't have the right to defend ourselves. She might disagree with what and how you should be able to, but the idea that she's suggesting Israel can defend themselves but US citizens can not is somewhat ludicrous and quite the straw man.