Bull Moose Sportsmen

**Tom Servo** · December 24, 2013, 02:28 PM

Here we go again. The Bull Moose Sportsmen claim they're a group of Colorado gun owners and 2nd Amendment supporters who just think some gun control (universal background checks, banning hi-cap magazines) is a good idea. They dress in camo and hunt birds with shotguns. That makes them just like us, right?

These guys are strongly remnescient of the American Hunters and Shooters Association and the American Rifle and Pistol Association. As Emily Miller has pointed out, founder Timothy Mauck was finance director for Mark Udall's campaign in 2012. Udall, to put it mildly, is not a friend to gun owners. They have lent support to Senators Michael Bennet and Martin Heinrich, both of whom have voted for bans on so-called high-capacity magazines.

For a group claiming nonpartisanship, more than 95% of funding for BMS comes from America Votes. Among other things, America Votes attempted to protect Colorado Senators Morse and Giron from recall.

So yeah, they're still pushing the Joe Biden "hunters vs. the extremists" card. Don't expect them to let up on this any time soon.

Pahoo · December 24, 2013, 02:39 PM

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2nd Amendment supporters who just think some gun control (universal background checks, banning hi-cap magazines) is a good idea.

As long as they keep their opinion to themselves, that's fine. However, they are either "uninformed" or outright deceitful. I understand this mindset as I have shooting buddies that hate AR's and support extended background checks. Some own "Brown-Besses" and I remind them that it was once the AR or of the past..

When you compromise the 2A, you loose. ....

Be Safe !!!

Jo6pak · December 24, 2013, 03:29 PM

Thanks for the Heads-up about this group. I'll ass it along to my pro-freedom friends.

As for other comments here, I'll just be preaching to the choir.

kilimanjaro · December 24, 2013, 04:55 PM

The Bull Moose third party put Woodrow Wilson in the White House in 1912, don't be fooled into splitting apart again ! Oldest trick in the book, if you can't beat them, join them, then beat them.

carguychris · December 24, 2013, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kilimanjaro

The Bull Moose third party put Woodrow Wilson in the White House in 1912, don't be fooled into splitting apart again !

That is the FIRST thing I thought when I heard the name of this so-called "sportsmen's" group.

I think the name is meant to be a subtle but snide reference to the group's true intent. Presumably the organizers hope that most folks don't remember their high-school U.S. History well enough to understand the irony.

johnwilliamson062 · December 25, 2013, 12:13 AM

Someday I will get bored and make a PAC with and anti-gun name that attacks gun users for not using suppressors/silencers all the time. Threatening the health of children and firemen I tell you.

The "National Association to Stop Firearm Noise pollution Injuries"

I'll have to work on the legislative goals angle and the name...

cecILL · December 25, 2013, 10:18 AM

The antis are finally figuring out that their past tactics have not worked. We're in for a lot more of this nonsense.

Gary L. Griffiths · December 25, 2013, 11:36 AM

Sounds more like the Bull-something else party to me!

CowTowner · December 25, 2013, 12:38 PM

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The "National Association to Stop Firearm Noise pollution Injuries"

Be sure to let me know when you get this figured out. I'll join.

carguychris · December 25, 2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by johnwilliamson062

Someday I will get bored and make a PAC with and anti-gun name that attacks gun users for not using suppressors/silencers all the time... I'll have to work on the legislative goals angle and the name...

Silent Sportmen, Shooters, & Hunters... SSSH. The logo can be the head of a man, in a plaid earflap hunting cap, holding his index finger to his lips in the traditional "be quiet" gesture.

johnwilliamson062 · December 25, 2013, 04:41 PM

Bird Watchers Against Boomers...

doofus47 · December 26, 2013, 10:47 PM

i'm sort of tempted to join, just to keep an eye on them.

Why do we get all the crazies in Colorado? Why can't these guys be from Iowa, or Missouri or somewhere else?

I spent a lot of time looking into the other 'colorado hunters for sensible gun laws' or whatever they were called group, now I have to start chasing this one.
P's me off.

johnwilliamson062 · December 29, 2013, 09:22 AM

I think COlorada based groups are there for obvious reason. You've picked up a ot of Californians who are interested in such things AND a hunting group "based in Colorado" sounds significantly more legitimate than one from California or New York.

SIGSHR · December 30, 2013, 03:45 PM

There was a website called "Gun Guys" that did something similar-"reasonable" regulations.

Uncle Buck · December 31, 2013, 05:19 PM

Doofus, why you gotta be hatin' on Missouri, we have our own nut jobs here already. You keep 'em, please.

I think a lot of these anti-gun crowd have finally taken a page from the HSUS handbook. Show pictures of tragedies and then ask for money. Do not tell the people who donate what they are actually supporting and raise lots of money for your pet (No pun intended) cause.

Most people do not delve in to the actual workings and machination of these organization, just look at the name and think "Yeah, that sounds sad, I think I will donate.

December 24, 2013, 02:28 PM	#1
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	Bull Moose Sportsmen Here we go again. The Bull Moose Sportsmen claim they're a group of Colorado gun owners and 2nd Amendment supporters who just think some gun control (universal background checks, banning hi-cap magazines) is a good idea. They dress in camo and hunt birds with shotguns. That makes them just like us, right? These guys are strongly remnescient of the American Hunters and Shooters Association and the American Rifle and Pistol Association. As Emily Miller has pointed out, founder Timothy Mauck was finance director for Mark Udall's campaign in 2012. Udall, to put it mildly, is not a friend to gun owners. They have lent support to Senators Michael Bennet and Martin Heinrich, both of whom have voted for bans on so-called high-capacity magazines. For a group claiming nonpartisanship, more than 95% of funding for BMS comes from America Votes. Among other things, America Votes attempted to protect Colorado Senators Morse and Giron from recall. So yeah, they're still pushing the Joe Biden "hunters vs. the extremists" card. Don't expect them to let up on this any time soon. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

December 24, 2013, 03:29 PM	#3
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,663	Thanks for the Heads-up about this group. I'll ass it along to my pro-freedom friends. As for other comments here, I'll just be preaching to the choir. __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

December 25, 2013, 11:36 AM	#8
Gary L. Griffiths Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: AZ, WA Posts: 1,466	Sounds more like the Bull-something else party to me! __________________ Violence is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and valorous feeling which believes that nothing is worth violence is much worse. Those who have nothing for which they are willing to fight; nothing they care about more than their own craven apathy; are miserable creatures who have no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the valor of those better than themselves. Gary L. Griffiths (Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill)

December 25, 2013, 04:41 PM	#11
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Bird Watchers Against Boomers... Last edited by johnwilliamson062; December 25, 2013 at 04:53 PM.

December 26, 2013, 10:47 PM	#12
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 2,483	i'm sort of tempted to join, just to keep an eye on them. Why do we get all the crazies in Colorado? Why can't these guys be from Iowa, or Missouri or somewhere else? I spent a lot of time looking into the other 'colorado hunters for sensible gun laws' or whatever they were called group, now I have to start chasing this one. P's me off. __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

December 24, 2013, 04:55 PM	#4
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	The Bull Moose third party put Woodrow Wilson in the White House in 1912, don't be fooled into splitting apart again ! Oldest trick in the book, if you can't beat them, join them, then beat them.

December 25, 2013, 12:13 AM	#6
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Someday I will get bored and make a PAC with and anti-gun name that attacks gun users for not using suppressors/silencers all the time. Threatening the health of children and firemen I tell you. The "National Association to Stop Firearm Noise pollution Injuries" I'll have to work on the legislative goals angle and the name...

December 25, 2013, 10:18 AM	#7
cecILL Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2001 Location: central IL Posts: 769	The antis are finally figuring out that their past tactics have not worked. We're in for a lot more of this nonsense.

December 29, 2013, 09:22 AM	#13
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	I think COlorada based groups are there for obvious reason. You've picked up a ot of Californians who are interested in such things AND a hunting group "based in Colorado" sounds significantly more legitimate than one from California or New York.

December 30, 2013, 03:45 PM	#14
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	There was a website called "Gun Guys" that did something similar-"reasonable" regulations. Last edited by Evan Thomas; January 1, 2014 at 12:28 AM. Reason: deleted off-topic comment.

December 31, 2013, 05:19 PM	#15
Uncle Buck Senior Member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: West Central Missouri Posts: 2,592	Doofus, why you gotta be hatin' on Missouri, we have our own nut jobs here already. You keep 'em, please. I think a lot of these anti-gun crowd have finally taken a page from the HSUS handbook. Show pictures of tragedies and then ask for money. Do not tell the people who donate what they are actually supporting and raise lots of money for your pet (No pun intended) cause. Most people do not delve in to the actual workings and machination of these organization, just look at the name and think "Yeah, that sounds sad, I think I will donate. __________________ Inside Every Bright Idea Is The 50% Probability Of A Disaster Waiting To Happen.