Another barrel poll

Big Caliber · January 20, 2008, 02:23 AM

I'm lookin to MAYBE replace the barrel on a Stevens 200, 25-06. Any thoughts on the following companies: Kreiger, Douglas, & Shilen? Thankyou, the posts I get back from TFL have ALWAYS been gracious and very helpful.

Hawg · January 20, 2008, 07:56 AM

Depends on what you want it for. If hunting any of them will do. If competition is what you're looking at get a Krieger or Obermeyer. Krieger is the most accurate but it's so at the cost of accelerated wear.

Harry Bonar · January 20, 2008, 08:20 AM

Sir:
Get hold of Fred Depoy at Douglas Barrels at Charleston WVA.
Harry B.

VaFisher · January 20, 2008, 08:48 AM

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Sir:
Get hold of Fred Depoy at Douglas Barrels at Charleston WVA.
Harry B.

Diddo, Harry is giving some great advise like normal.

Jim Watson · January 20, 2008, 10:38 AM

The nice thing about Savage (Stevens) rifles is that barrel changes are a DIY job. Pac-Nor and Shilen sell barrels profiled, chambered, and threaded, ready to screw in. Savage Shooter's Supply sells Savage barrels made on Douglas blanks, and there is an outfit whose name I do not recall selling Lothar Walther barrels for Savage.

All that you need is a barrel vise, barrel nut wrench, and headspace Go gauge. I am NRA Mechanically Inept and if I can do it, you can do it.

Of course there are gunsmiths who will install a Krieger, Hart, Broughton or any other brand you want, but it will run the time and cost up considerably.

Just what do you want to make this Stevens able to do that it will not do now?

Big Caliber · January 20, 2008, 08:03 PM

That is an excellent question. I wanted to try my hand putting together a hobby rifle. Funds are limited or I woulda bought a Savage 110fp. Actually, I'm going in Monday to order the rifle from my favorite gunny, a Stevens 200. It could be that it will shoot 1moa out of the box. If not, I will tinker with it 'til it does. I expect to drop in a new trig. right off the bat. I'm led to believe a varmint barrel is more accurate than the stock thin tube. I have a 110fp in 308, but w/ the tact barrel, big scope & a stock fit for Fronkenschteen,

I don't want to drag it away from the bench. The hobby gun will be mostly for target but maybe it will do for hunting if & when I can retire to Idaho. I thought the 25-06 would make a decent duo purpose, semi-long range varmint rifle. What do you think?

Harry Bonar · January 23, 2008, 08:20 PM

Sir:
I think Savage is a "sleeper" rifle - perhaps the best rifle out there. It is plagued with a poor trigger (not since the acutrigger), but very accurate out of the box.
I'd "steel-bed" it, recrown, maybe adjust headspace a couple of thou' tighter, float the bbl. You ought to have a fine shooting rifle.
And, I like the ole 30-06.
Harry B.

Harry Bonar · January 23, 2008, 08:31 PM

Sir:
Doc, and I were down to Douglas Monday and talked to Fred for some time - Doc ordered a Winchester bbl. in 458 LOTT.
Fred explained the normalizing treatment they used and it is complicated!
Their air- guaging is crucial in all phases of the operation and they are using 4140 steel from another vendor who offers it, from a new sophisticated mill who can do much of the heat-treat at the mill - there is very little scrap!
It is my opinion that their button procedure leaves the inside so smooth that there is no need for bbl. break-in!
A swell bunch of guys too!
Harry B.

January 20, 2008, 02:23 AM	#1
Big Caliber Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: S. CA Posts: 421	Another barrel poll I'm lookin to MAYBE replace the barrel on a Stevens 200, 25-06. Any thoughts on the following companies: Kreiger, Douglas, & Shilen? Thankyou, the posts I get back from TFL have ALWAYS been gracious and very helpful.

January 20, 2008, 08:20 AM	#3
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	barrel Sir: Get hold of Fred Depoy at Douglas Barrels at Charleston WVA. Harry B.

January 20, 2008, 08:03 PM	#6
Big Caliber Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2006 Location: S. CA Posts: 421	What I want it to do..? That is an excellent question. I wanted to try my hand putting together a hobby rifle. Funds are limited or I woulda bought a Savage 110fp. Actually, I'm going in Monday to order the rifle from my favorite gunny, a Stevens 200. It could be that it will shoot 1moa out of the box. If not, I will tinker with it 'til it does. I expect to drop in a new trig. right off the bat. I'm led to believe a varmint barrel is more accurate than the stock thin tube. I have a 110fp in 308, but w/ the tact barrel, big scope & a stock fit for Fronkenschteen, I don't want to drag it away from the bench. The hobby gun will be mostly for target but maybe it will do for hunting if & when I can retire to Idaho. I thought the 25-06 would make a decent duo purpose, semi-long range varmint rifle. What do you think?

January 23, 2008, 08:20 PM	#7
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	Savage Sir: I think Savage is a "sleeper" rifle - perhaps the best rifle out there. It is plagued with a poor trigger (not since the acutrigger), but very accurate out of the box. I'd "steel-bed" it, recrown, maybe adjust headspace a couple of thou' tighter, float the bbl. You ought to have a fine shooting rifle. And, I like the ole 30-06. Harry B.

January 23, 2008, 08:31 PM	#8
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	Savage Sir: Doc, and I were down to Douglas Monday and talked to Fred for some time - Doc ordered a Winchester bbl. in 458 LOTT. Fred explained the normalizing treatment they used and it is complicated! Their air- guaging is crucial in all phases of the operation and they are using 4140 steel from another vendor who offers it, from a new sophisticated mill who can do much of the heat-treat at the mill - there is very little scrap! It is my opinion that their button procedure leaves the inside so smooth that there is no need for bbl. break-in! A swell bunch of guys too! Harry B.

January 20, 2008, 07:56 AM	#2
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,188	Depends on what you want it for. If hunting any of them will do. If competition is what you're looking at get a Krieger or Obermeyer. Krieger is the most accurate but it's so at the cost of accelerated wear.

January 20, 2008, 10:38 AM	#5
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 18,539	The nice thing about Savage (Stevens) rifles is that barrel changes are a DIY job. Pac-Nor and Shilen sell barrels profiled, chambered, and threaded, ready to screw in. Savage Shooter's Supply sells Savage barrels made on Douglas blanks, and there is an outfit whose name I do not recall selling Lothar Walther barrels for Savage. All that you need is a barrel vise, barrel nut wrench, and headspace Go gauge. I am NRA Mechanically Inept and if I can do it, you can do it. Of course there are gunsmiths who will install a Krieger, Hart, Broughton or any other brand you want, but it will run the time and cost up considerably. Just what do you want to make this Stevens able to do that it will not do now?