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November 15, 2011, 01:22 PM | #51 |
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In before the lock - often, controversial topics such as this are shut down by forum administrators. Locked threads cannot be replied to.
AND - give the guy some dignity, lose the moron and idiot terms... he was just a guy trying to protect what was important to him.... his family and himself...... In his method fo doing so, it just so happens that he made a mistake.
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1) If you NEED a gun where you're going, why go? If I actually thought I'd need a gun in the course of my day, I'd change my schedule or call the cops. At the very least I'd have a rifle on my person. Handguns are for the unforeseen emergencies. 2) If you're unsafe when you carry a gun unnecessarily (in your viewpoint), then what magic force is protecting you from harm when you think it is needed? Unsafe is unsafe, period. Responsible is responsible whether you went out for a quart of milk at the corner store or you went into some more nefarious neighborhood. I think it's more likely that one who carries rarely is more likely to be unsafe due to lack of familiarity and the reduced perceived use leading to junky gear (if you wear a gun every day, you've probably invested in a good belt or holster than if you just toss it in a pocket to go). Safety is not only a choice but also a habit. We must CHOOSE we will carry safely, and then we must ingrain that choice by turning safe actions into habits. |
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November 15, 2011, 01:31 PM | #53 |
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Pocket Carry does not equal no holster. There are pocket carry holsters.
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November 15, 2011, 01:34 PM | #54 |
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see my first post
title changed//it might have to wait for approval(was gonna do something different but opted on something similar-plse feel free to do as needed)
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November 15, 2011, 01:46 PM | #56 |
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BTW - I never said that carrying a gun safely and legally is going to offer an unsafe situation.
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I would like to say Tom's post had me crackin up+i developed a good picture of that conversation
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The Lori Klein situation didn't occur in a vacuum. The late middle-age country club crowd frightens me much more than the Call of Duty mall ninja folks.
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What killed this man was not carrying a gun to the grocery store. What killed him was his own unsafe practice, and those practices are not restricted to times when you think firearm carry is unnecessary. In fact, I would submit that one who only carries occasionally is MORE likely to be unsafe than someone who does so with regularity. Whenever you carry, do so safely. Know your gun, know the advantages and disadvantages of your specific carry method and associated gear. Don't shortcut, you'll wish you hadn't. There's several folks out there with scars on their legs from substandard (or no) carry rigs, and I have a strong suspicion that a quality belt and holster would have cost far less than their medical co-pays. |
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And for what it is worth, I agree with you. I don't need a pistol with one in the chamber on my person ALL OF THE TIME. In fact, I don't even need it MOST OF THE TIME. The problem is, I don't actually know when the ONE TIME I NEED IT will be, so the only way to be sure of having it during the ONE TIME I NEED IT is to carry it ALL OF THE TIME. Quote:
And what is with the "A guy died in case you missed that" comment? What exactly did that add to the discussion? Do you actually believe that I missed that? And if you don't believe that I somehoew managed to miss that detail, then exactly what are you trying to imply? |
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But, we have discussed a topic that we have strong opinions about, and that's ok - if we all had the same opinion about everything, then... conversation, forums, life in general would be boring. Bartholomew - I have a funny feeling that If we met face to face, shared a cup of coffee, or a glass of ale - we would become friends. Best of luck to every American and... to every firearm owner Be safe, you must protect the ones you love and you cannot protect anyone if you are dead.
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Carry without a safe method is dangerous.
Since I take it some posters are not trained mental health professionals, I really don't care about your view of paranoia or whether you want to have coffee with each other. The idea of predicting that violence only occurs in bad neighborhoods is stupid and not supported by the facts. That's all that needs to be said. Closed.
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