Found a Dragonov at a sale.

Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 03:39 PM

But didn't have the $1000. It was at a liquidation sale. Two mags, complete with original scope and tripod. Not sure but the last time I checked, $1000 for a Dragonov is insanely cheap. Thought abouy trading my unrestored '57 Caddy.for it.

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Madcap_Magician · October 5, 2012, 03:41 PM

Sure it was an actual Dragunov and not a PSL?

FrankenMauser · October 5, 2012, 03:41 PM

Are you sure it wasn't a PSL?
That's their price range.

Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 04:37 PM

How can you tell?

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Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 04:44 PM

The scope sure looked liked a real original scope. I did some searching online for the PSL rifle. None of those seem to have the Dragonov style scope

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Jo6pak · October 5, 2012, 05:38 PM

The main difference is the gas system

SVD "Dragonov"

PSL

Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 06:22 PM

It looked just like this

http://www.google.com/search?q=dragu...isch&sa=2#i=56

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Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 06:47 PM

I'll see if I can get back there and take a picture of it

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5.56RifleGuy · October 5, 2012, 06:50 PM

Look at the receiver markings and see what it says. That scope could go on many types of rifles.

Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 07:19 PM

Ok

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carguychris · October 5, 2012, 07:27 PM

Quote:

How can you tell?

Dragunov features, starting with items clearly visible in joe6pak's picture:

"Waffle" shaped reinforcements stamped in magazine
Single-piece stock forearm that is removed by sliding towards the front
Stock forearm partially surrounds rear sight
No rear stock cheekpiece, or a separate adjustable part
Many US-market imports were sold without a muzzle brake
Distinctive pronounced "S" curve in safety lever (not visible in picture)
Large trapezoidal ejection port (not visible)
Tang not visible at buttstock-receiver interface (not visible)

PSL features:

Distinctive "X" shaped reinforcement stamped in magazine
Two-piece stock forearm with horizontal joint
Stock forearm does not surround rear sight
Integral cheekpiece
Normally has a muzzle brake
Straighter safety lever
Smaller rectangular ejection port
Visible tang and screw and bottstock-receiver interface (not visible)

AFAIK the scopes interchange, so they are not a 100% reliable spotting feature.

Dragunovs are a good deal more valuable than PSLs; $1,000 is a great deal for the former, but NOT for the latter, they usually trade in the $800 neighborhood. Be aware, however, that a LOT of people do not know the difference between the two rifles!

Aaron1100us · October 5, 2012, 08:53 PM

Thanks. I'll look at it again. I think I remember the mag having the waffle look to it

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Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 09:16 AM

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DaveWUSAF · October 6, 2012, 09:34 AM

Looks like a Tiger Dragonov. They were a sporting configured version for sale in the US. They went for about $700 back then but are worth much more now. Someone may be able to give you a better guess as to value.

FYI: http://www.dragunov.net/tiger.html

Dave

Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 09:36 AM

Ok thanks

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5.56RifleGuy · October 6, 2012, 09:42 AM

Wow yeah that looks right

Im not sure if it could be a parts kit gun, but look at the receiver markings and see if its says Tigr on it and if it has import information.

If so and its only $1000, buy it.

Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 09:43 AM

At the bank now

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tobnpr · October 6, 2012, 09:46 AM

Ditto...
If that's a Tigr, with no problems for a grand, it's a STEAL.

Looks mostly correct from pics I've seen, except for the thumbhole stock:

http://www.dragunov.net/tiger.html

5.56RifleGuy · October 6, 2012, 09:46 AM

I have to say, you are a lucky guy. Those sell for like at least $3000 usually, If you can even find one. Maybe I will have to start going to gun shows again haha.

5.56RifleGuy · October 6, 2012, 09:50 AM

Does he have any other stuff for sale also? I think the rifle originally had a poly stock set, you might want to see if he has that too. The wood one is original, but it would be nice to have both if you can.

MJ1 · October 6, 2012, 09:51 AM

There is or was one of the mid 1980's Norinco rifles with the box and full kit on one of the auction boards a year ago the was up to $5K with a week to go. The Tiger was a post '89 import neutered to pass the sporting test. Still not a bad deal today to get the short tappet gas system. Wish I had the $1800 in '85 for the Norinco. That was big $ for me back then.

Cheers
..MJ..

Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 09:52 AM

Heading there to pick it up, willl look aroumd

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Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 10:01 AM

Had some M-14's, some other wood semi autos bit wereny im good shape.

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Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 10:02 AM

Bought it. Its well oild, everything seems to work and the barrel looks good.

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Aaron1100us · October 6, 2012, 10:05 AM

I didn't know these were 7.62X54, thats cool, thought they were 7.72X39 like the AK 47. I've wanted one of these for over 20 years. Never even seen one in real life before.

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October 5, 2012, 03:39 PM	#1
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Found a Dragonov at a sale. But didn't have the $1000. It was at a liquidation sale. Two mags, complete with original scope and tripod. Not sure but the last time I checked, $1000 for a Dragonov is insanely cheap. Thought abouy trading my unrestored '57 Caddy.for it. Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 5, 2012, 03:41 PM	#3
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,421	Are you sure it wasn't a PSL? That's their price range. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

October 5, 2012, 04:44 PM	#5
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	The scope sure looked liked a real original scope. I did some searching online for the PSL rifle. None of those seem to have the Dragonov style scope Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2 Last edited by Aaron1100us; October 5, 2012 at 05:16 PM.

October 5, 2012, 05:38 PM	#6
Jo6pak Senior Member Join Date: August 5, 2010 Location: West Coast...of WI Posts: 1,663	The main difference is the gas system SVD "Dragonov" PSL __________________ NRA Life Member, SAF contributor.

October 6, 2012, 09:51 AM	#21
MJ1 Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2008 Posts: 329	;) There is or was one of the mid 1980's Norinco rifles with the box and full kit on one of the auction boards a year ago the was up to $5K with a week to go. The Tiger was a post '89 import neutered to pass the sporting test. Still not a bad deal today to get the short tappet gas system. Wish I had the $1800 in '85 for the Norinco. That was big $ for me back then. Cheers ..MJ.. __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" --Unknown Soldier-- Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid. - David Hackworth -

October 5, 2012, 03:41 PM	#2
Madcap_Magician Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2009 Location: MN Posts: 668	Sure it was an actual Dragunov and not a PSL?

October 5, 2012, 04:37 PM	#4
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	How can you tell? Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 5, 2012, 06:22 PM	#7
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	It looked just like this http://www.google.com/search?q=dragu...isch&sa=2#i=56 Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 5, 2012, 06:47 PM	#8
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	I'll see if I can get back there and take a picture of it Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 5, 2012, 06:50 PM	#9
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	Look at the receiver markings and see what it says. That scope could go on many types of rifles.

October 5, 2012, 07:19 PM	#10
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Ok Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 5, 2012, 08:53 PM	#12
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Thanks. I'll look at it again. I think I remember the mag having the waffle look to it Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 09:16 AM	#13
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 09:34 AM	#14
DaveWUSAF Junior Member Join Date: August 28, 2006 Posts: 12	Looks like a Tiger Dragonov. They were a sporting configured version for sale in the US. They went for about $700 back then but are worth much more now. Someone may be able to give you a better guess as to value. FYI: http://www.dragunov.net/tiger.html Dave

October 6, 2012, 09:36 AM	#15
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Ok thanks Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 09:42 AM	#16
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	Wow yeah that looks right Im not sure if it could be a parts kit gun, but look at the receiver markings and see if its says Tigr on it and if it has import information. If so and its only $1000, buy it.

October 6, 2012, 09:43 AM	#17
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	At the bank now Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 09:46 AM	#18
tobnpr Senior Member Join Date: August 1, 2010 Location: Tampa Bay Posts: 4,556	Ditto... If that's a Tigr, with no problems for a grand, it's a STEAL. Looks mostly correct from pics I've seen, except for the thumbhole stock: http://www.dragunov.net/tiger.html

October 6, 2012, 09:50 AM	#20
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	Does he have any other stuff for sale also? I think the rifle originally had a poly stock set, you might want to see if he has that too. The wood one is original, but it would be nice to have both if you can.

October 6, 2012, 09:52 AM	#22
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Heading there to pick it up, willl look aroumd Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 10:01 AM	#23
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Had some M-14's, some other wood semi autos bit wereny im good shape. Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 10:02 AM	#24
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	Bought it. Its well oild, everything seems to work and the barrel looks good. Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

October 6, 2012, 10:05 AM	#25
Aaron1100us Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2011 Posts: 235	I didn't know these were 7.62X54, thats cool, thought they were 7.72X39 like the AK 47. I've wanted one of these for over 20 years. Never even seen one in real life before. Sent from my PB99400 using Tapatalk 2

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