Is the .22 LR a sufficient weapon to hunt Coyotes with under 50yd???

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 06:26 PM

I have never hunted coyotes before and I have been seeing them when I shoot just before sunset. I wasn't sure if a lung shot would drop one within about 50 yards. I just purchased some 40 grain velocitors, that's the heaviest I have for .22, so that's probably what I'd use.

arthurrh · March 4, 2005, 06:58 PM

At 50 yards it's definitely going to work. But if you're going any farther you'll want to think about more gun.

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 07:01 PM

I have been seeing them pretty close! Fifty yards should be the maximum.

MTMilitiaman · March 4, 2005, 07:07 PM

I am not sure I would consider the .22 ideal for coyotes, but it should work. And I agree with your choice of ammunition. I've used the Velocitors with great success on ground squirrels and other small game. I've never had anything do more than flop over and twitch when shot with the Velocitors. I wouldn't exactly call it recoil, but just shooting them lets you know the CCIs have more umph to them that most other .22 Long Rifle loads. Let us know how it turns out.

Handy · March 4, 2005, 07:15 PM

I don't think you'll get very clean kills, and the dogs will suffer. They are just as tough as people - imagine dying of a .22LR chest wound.

Japle · March 4, 2005, 07:34 PM

Having shot a lot of them, I'd say that a .22 will kill them, but not fast. You can't count on missing ribs or other bones that will deflect a .22.
If you're happy with them living for several minutes to an hour or more while they bleed out, go ahead. If you don't mind them living with a wound for days until it becomes infected and they finally die, have at it.

John
Cape Canaveral

Mannlicher · March 4, 2005, 07:57 PM

Yeah, if you shoot him enough times.

Jseime · March 4, 2005, 07:59 PM

for sure those velocitors will kill them theyre not as big as they look. id definetly be willing to try it with my 597 since its a 10 shot i like thos fast sollow ups.

Robinson · March 4, 2005, 08:07 PM

I've shot 11 coyotes in the past 6 years. I've had problems putting them down with .22 lr. I've even shot two with a .270 140 grain failsafe bullets. One of them that was shot rolled over two times got up ran off for 60 yards even with a .270! At fifty yards I would consider a 12 gauge shotgun with 3" magnum buckshot. They can be diffucult to put down but if you insist on using a .22 use premium rounds, I prefer lead roundnose bullets and you may want to take head shots.

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 08:33 PM

I just figured, since my gun is a 15 shot semi-auto, I could fill one up pretty quick in the lung region.

ebd10 · March 4, 2005, 08:40 PM

>>I just figured, since my gun is a 15 shot semi-auto, I could fill one up pretty quick in the lung region.<<

Don't bet on it. Coyotes are fast and seem to turn invisible when they want to. Your best bet is to step up to something with more oomph, like a .22 Hornet.

redhawk41 · March 4, 2005, 08:42 PM

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trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 08:45 PM

if a 22lr was all you had, would you shoot one fifty yards and in?

Samuel_Hoggson · March 4, 2005, 08:49 PM

Coyotes are surprisingly non-tenacious. A .22LR will kill them out to 50 yards, but don't expect sudden kills. If you're looking to dump them right there, use something more powerful.

Sam

**Rich Lucibella** · March 4, 2005, 08:58 PM

I kill Coyotes on sight, with whatever is at hand. But I want to thank everyone here who pointed out this is not an ideal round for Coyote, except in the most controlled (or unexpected) situation.

TFL is about Responsible Firearms Ownership. That includes Responsible Hunting. I simply cannot understand Responsible Shooters intentionally planning to drop the hammer on an animal with a caliber "just to see", when you could just as easily choose a rifle that will leave no doubt (all things being equal).

Not only would it embarrass me if you came to me with that intent, but I'd probably be rooting for the Coyote, if not hunting you in the background.

Lurkers watch this Forum. Kids watch it. Anti's watch it. Is this the image y'all want for "Responsible Firearms Ownership"? If so, we're on completely different frequencies.
Rich

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 09:06 PM

That's why I'm asking. I wouldn't just go out and try it!

**Rich Lucibella** · March 4, 2005, 09:11 PM

trackman-
I didn't say it was an inappropriate Question....it's most certainly not.
Nothing personal intended.
Rich

The Body Bagger · March 4, 2005, 09:13 PM

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I have been seeing them pretty close! Fifty yards should be the maximum.

Try not hiding under the bait pile.....they know you're there.

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 09:26 PM

I have a Winchester Model 74 .22 LR, a 16 guage Remington Sportsman, and a CZ 1945 .25 auto. I know, weird assortment, but that's what I've got. I feel confident that my .22 loaded with 40g velocitors will do the trick at 50 and under.

Handy · March 4, 2005, 09:28 PM

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I feel confident that my .22 loaded with 40g velocitors will do the trick at 50 and under.

Well, since you mostly got the OPPOSITE advice, I wonder why you bothered asking?

Where does this curious confidence come from? Certainly not experience.

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 09:32 PM

arthurrh, MTmilitiaman, Mannlicher, Jseime, and Samuel Hoggson seem to think that it would be ok! That's enough for me!

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 09:43 PM

I loved your point on the mom who got arrested for possesing an illegal gun! You're exactly right!

**Rich Lucibella** · March 4, 2005, 09:43 PM

Quote:

arthurrh, MTmilitiaman, Mannlicher, Jseime, and Samuel Hoggson seem to think that it would be ok! That's enough for me!

OK, then. Your hunt; Your index finger; Your bullet; Your Karma.
Go for it.
Rich

Handy · March 4, 2005, 09:49 PM

Trackman, Samuel specifically said that it will not kill them quickly. MT said it was not ideal. Not exactly unequivical support.

trackman32 · March 4, 2005, 09:57 PM

Samuel specifically typed "yes" and MT said it should work and to let him know how it turned out. Doesn't sound like they had a huge problem with it Handy! Maybe you wouldn't try it! That's you! I now know your opinion. Thanks for your input. I feel that a, fifty yard and in, head shot would be a humane kill on a small coyote.

March 4, 2005, 06:26 PM	#1
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	Is the .22 LR a sufficient weapon to hunt Coyotes with under 50yd??? I have never hunted coyotes before and I have been seeing them when I shoot just before sunset. I wasn't sure if a lung shot would drop one within about 50 yards. I just purchased some 40 grain velocitors, that's the heaviest I have for .22, so that's probably what I'd use.

March 4, 2005, 07:01 PM	#3
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	Sounds good! I have been seeing them pretty close! Fifty yards should be the maximum.

March 4, 2005, 07:57 PM	#7
Mannlicher Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2001 Location: North Central Florida & Miami Posts: 3,209	Yeah, if you shoot him enough times. __________________ Nemo Me Impune Lacesset "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.".........Ronald Reagan

March 4, 2005, 07:59 PM	#8
Jseime Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,775	you betcha for sure those velocitors will kill them theyre not as big as they look. id definetly be willing to try it with my 597 since its a 10 shot i like thos fast sollow ups.

March 4, 2005, 08:07 PM	#9
Robinson Member Join Date: February 21, 2005 Location: Maine Posts: 77	Not really I've shot 11 coyotes in the past 6 years. I've had problems putting them down with .22 lr. I've even shot two with a .270 140 grain failsafe bullets. One of them that was shot rolled over two times got up ran off for 60 yards even with a .270! At fifty yards I would consider a 12 gauge shotgun with 3" magnum buckshot. They can be diffucult to put down but if you insist on using a .22 use premium rounds, I prefer lead roundnose bullets and you may want to take head shots.

March 4, 2005, 06:58 PM	#2
arthurrh Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2004 Posts: 189	At 50 yards it's definitely going to work. But if you're going any farther you'll want to think about more gun.

March 4, 2005, 07:07 PM	#4
MTMilitiaman Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2004 Location: NW Montana Posts: 1,875	I am not sure I would consider the .22 ideal for coyotes, but it should work. And I agree with your choice of ammunition. I've used the Velocitors with great success on ground squirrels and other small game. I've never had anything do more than flop over and twitch when shot with the Velocitors. I wouldn't exactly call it recoil, but just shooting them lets you know the CCIs have more umph to them that most other .22 Long Rifle loads. Let us know how it turns out.

March 4, 2005, 07:15 PM	#5
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	I don't think you'll get very clean kills, and the dogs will suffer. They are just as tough as people - imagine dying of a .22LR chest wound.

March 4, 2005, 07:34 PM	#6
Japle Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 2004 Location: Viera, Florida Posts: 1,340	Having shot a lot of them, I'd say that a .22 will kill them, but not fast. You can't count on missing ribs or other bones that will deflect a .22. If you're happy with them living for several minutes to an hour or more while they bleed out, go ahead. If you don't mind them living with a wound for days until it becomes infected and they finally die, have at it. John Cape Canaveral

March 4, 2005, 08:33 PM	#10
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	At fifty yards I would definitely be able to hit them in the head. I just figured, since my gun is a 15 shot semi-auto, I could fill one up pretty quick in the lung region.

March 4, 2005, 08:40 PM	#11
ebd10 Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 127	>>I just figured, since my gun is a 15 shot semi-auto, I could fill one up pretty quick in the lung region.<< Don't bet on it. Coyotes are fast and seem to turn invisible when they want to. Your best bet is to step up to something with more oomph, like a .22 Hornet.

March 4, 2005, 08:42 PM	#12
redhawk41 Senior Member Join Date: February 1, 2005 Location: Red Desert Posts: 819	.243 .243 __________________ {empty thought cloud}

March 4, 2005, 08:45 PM	#13
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	All I'm asking is... if a 22lr was all you had, would you shoot one fifty yards and in?

March 4, 2005, 08:49 PM	#14
Samuel_Hoggson Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Posts: 90	Yes Coyotes are surprisingly non-tenacious. A .22LR will kill them out to 50 yards, but don't expect sudden kills. If you're looking to dump them right there, use something more powerful. Sam

March 4, 2005, 08:58 PM	#15
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	I kill Coyotes on sight, with whatever is at hand. But I want to thank everyone here who pointed out this is not an ideal round for Coyote, except in the most controlled (or unexpected) situation. TFL is about *Responsible Firearms Ownership. That includes Responsible Hunting. I simply cannot understand Responsible Shooters intentionally planning to drop the hammer on an animal with a caliber "just to see", when you could just as easily choose a rifle that will leave no doubt (all things being equal). Not only would it embarrass me if you came to me with that intent, but I'd probably be rooting for the Coyote, if not hunting you in the background. Lurkers watch this Forum. Kids watch it. Anti's watch it. Is this the image y'all want for "Responsible Firearms Ownership"? If so, we're on completely different frequencies. Rich __________________ S.W.A.T. Magazine* Weapons, Training and Tactics for the Real World Join us at TFL or at AR15.com or on Facebook

March 4, 2005, 09:06 PM	#16
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	Easy there Rich! That's why I'm asking. I wouldn't just go out and try it!

March 4, 2005, 09:11 PM	#17
Rich Lucibella Staff Join Date: October 6, 1998 Location: South Florida Posts: 10,229	trackman- I didn't say it was an inappropriate Question....it's most certainly not. Nothing personal intended. Rich __________________ S.W.A.T. Magazine Weapons, Training and Tactics for the Real World Join us at TFL or at AR15.com or on Facebook

March 4, 2005, 09:26 PM	#19
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	I'm a newbie as far as guns are concerned. I have a Winchester Model 74 .22 LR, a 16 guage Remington Sportsman, and a CZ 1945 .25 auto. I know, weird assortment, but that's what I've got. I feel confident that my .22 loaded with 40g velocitors will do the trick at 50 and under.

March 4, 2005, 09:32 PM	#21
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	Actually it was more like half and half! arthurrh, MTmilitiaman, Mannlicher, Jseime, and Samuel Hoggson seem to think that it would be ok! That's enough for me!

March 4, 2005, 09:43 PM	#22
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	by the way rich... I loved your point on the mom who got arrested for possesing an illegal gun! You're exactly right!

March 4, 2005, 09:49 PM	#24
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	Trackman, Samuel specifically said that it will not kill them quickly. MT said it was not ideal. Not exactly unequivical support.

March 4, 2005, 09:57 PM	#25
trackman32 Junior member Join Date: March 1, 2005 Posts: 42	When I asked if they would... Samuel specifically typed "yes" and MT said it should work and to let him know how it turned out. Doesn't sound like they had a huge problem with it Handy! Maybe you wouldn't try it! That's you! I now know your opinion. Thanks for your input. I feel that a, fifty yard and in, head shot would be a humane kill on a small coyote.