Any more info on new Saiga rifles coming out?

Venom1956 · January 13, 2013, 03:29 PM

has anyone heard any new info about these besides they want to bring them here?

The .22lr Ak74?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-from-izhmash/

or the

Saiga-9 and Civilian version AK-107?

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...lanced-recoil/

I'm hugely excited for all three. especially if the 9mm carbine is able to accept the helical mags!

I don't think its the right one tho...

chris in va · January 14, 2013, 01:20 AM

Wow, a 9mm Saiga. Heck yes!

Venom1956 · January 14, 2013, 09:03 AM

Now if they some how get the 53 round helical mags to fit this...

Fishbed77 · January 14, 2013, 10:32 AM

Izhmash is really hurting lately with Russian military cutbacks in rifle production. From what I understand, U.S. civilian sales have become a big part of their business, so I'm sure they would love to sell these guns here.

That said, the 10-round capacity of the .22LR AK is pretty dissapointing, especially considering how common and reliable the 25-round .22LR magazines (Black Dog and CMMG) for AR-15s are.

The 9mm AK could be a pretty interesting product, assuming it can get into the country un-neutered and at a reasonable price.

RedBowTies88 · January 14, 2013, 10:38 AM

Ak-107

Taking a gun thats wonderful becuase and only becuuase of its simplicity and complicating it up a bit

I wanna see some more info on the new .308's and if they can still be converted and of they plan on making similar changes to any of the other platforms.

Yung.gunr · January 14, 2013, 02:19 PM

I'm putting my money on them not making it over here...

.

I'd love to have a .22 or 9mm to go with my .223.

Even if they did I doubt they will make over here with the pistol grip. Probably end up like the sporters.

5.56RifleGuy · January 14, 2013, 04:30 PM

The VEPR 12s just came over with pistol grips and standard stocks. Worst case scenario they send it over with no butt stock as a pistol. They could do the same thing they do with their other rifles with arsenal and just send over barreled actions. I don't see why they wont come over, unless something changes in the legislature.

Mrgunsngear · January 14, 2013, 09:10 PM

Likely we'll have a lot more info by the end of the week after all the youtube guys (not me, I can't go...

) get reports from SHOT edited and out to the public.

Cy4ka · January 14, 2013, 09:17 PM

I hate the 107.

I don't expect any saigas anytime soon. They kept pushing the dates back from oct, to nov, then jan, now they still aren't here and vendors are trying to get rid of the Veprs we see everywhere.

9mm would be cool if you can afford to form1 it.

bigghoss · January 17, 2013, 02:33 PM

I would be interested in a .22 AK if someone makes a larger mag for them. They probably will if a ban doesn't pass depending on if they continue to push the issue.

I wouldn't mind a 9mm carbine (or a .45 for that matter) no matter the configuration but it had better take mags for a pistol I already own or would like to own, preferably glock mags.

johnwilliamson062 · January 20, 2013, 02:16 AM

10 rounds in an AK 22 isn't getting my attention.

9mm would be good if it takes Glock mags.

January 13, 2013, 03:29 PM	#1
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	Any more info on new Saiga rifles coming out? has anyone heard any new info about these besides they want to bring them here? The .22lr Ak74? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-from-izhmash/ or the Saiga-9 and Civilian version AK-107? http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...lanced-recoil/ I'm hugely excited for all three. especially if the 9mm carbine is able to accept the helical mags! I don't think its the right one tho... __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

January 14, 2013, 09:03 AM	#3
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	Now if they some how get the 53 round helical mags to fit this... __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

January 14, 2013, 10:32 AM	#4
Fishbed77 Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2010 Posts: 4,862	Izhmash is really hurting lately with Russian military cutbacks in rifle production. From what I understand, U.S. civilian sales have become a big part of their business, so I'm sure they would love to sell these guns here. That said, the 10-round capacity of the .22LR AK is pretty dissapointing, especially considering how common and reliable the 25-round .22LR magazines (Black Dog and CMMG) for AR-15s are. The 9mm AK could be a pretty interesting product, assuming it can get into the country un-neutered and at a reasonable price. Last edited by Fishbed77; January 14, 2013 at 04:02 PM.

January 14, 2013, 10:38 AM	#5
RedBowTies88 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2011 Location: 609 NJ Posts: 705	Ak-107 Taking a gun thats wonderful becuase and only becuuase of its simplicity and complicating it up a bit I wanna see some more info on the new .308's and if they can still be converted and of they plan on making similar changes to any of the other platforms. __________________ "...with liberty and justice for all." (Must be 21. Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply. Not available in all states.)

January 14, 2013, 09:10 PM	#8
Mrgunsngear Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2011 Location: Carolina Posts: 3,415	Likely we'll have a lot more info by the end of the week after all the youtube guys (not me, I can't go... ) get reports from SHOT edited and out to the public. __________________ Mrgunsngear Youtube Channel

January 14, 2013, 01:20 AM	#2
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	Wow, a 9mm Saiga. Heck yes!

January 14, 2013, 02:19 PM	#6
Yung.gunr Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2010 Location: Phoenix area Posts: 1,442	I'm putting my money on them not making it over here... . I'd love to have a .22 or 9mm to go with my .223. Even if they did I doubt they will make over here with the pistol grip. Probably end up like the sporters.

January 14, 2013, 04:30 PM	#7
5.56RifleGuy Senior Member Join Date: May 9, 2010 Location: USA Posts: 1,212	The VEPR 12s just came over with pistol grips and standard stocks. Worst case scenario they send it over with no butt stock as a pistol. They could do the same thing they do with their other rifles with arsenal and just send over barreled actions. I don't see why they wont come over, unless something changes in the legislature.

January 14, 2013, 09:17 PM	#9
Cy4ka Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Posts: 39	I hate the 107. I don't expect any saigas anytime soon. They kept pushing the dates back from oct, to nov, then jan, now they still aren't here and vendors are trying to get rid of the Veprs we see everywhere. 9mm would be cool if you can afford to form1 it.

January 17, 2013, 02:33 PM	#10
bigghoss Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2006 Location: Pueblo, Colorado Posts: 2,664	I would be interested in a .22 AK if someone makes a larger mag for them. They probably will if a ban doesn't pass depending on if they continue to push the issue. I wouldn't mind a 9mm carbine (or a .45 for that matter) no matter the configuration but it had better take mags for a pistol I already own or would like to own, preferably glock mags. __________________ I don't collect guns, I accumulate them.

January 20, 2013, 02:16 AM	#11
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	10 rounds in an AK 22 isn't getting my attention. 9mm would be good if it takes Glock mags.

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